My experiance through Gun Whoring....

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  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #1

    My experiance through Gun Whoring....

    Why do we do it ? What magical combination are we looking for by switching markers all the time ?

    As many of you know I have been playing for quite a few years (relatively). I am not by any means an old timer , but still long enough to have been here when mechs were IT. Mags and cockers sat on their venerable throne as rulers of the tourney circuit and the subject of many vs. threads that continue to this day.

    A few years ago the sport changed in a major way with the introduction of electronic markers. Suddenly the speed we could hose the field down with paint is limited only by the speed of our hopper , software , and our wallets ability to keep up. Many players now days have no ability whatsoever other than to be able to afford to keep shooting trains of paint back and forth across the field to supress the other team into( if nothing else financial )submission....

    Let me digress. This post isn't about some golden dreamed idea of going back to the old days of pumps and ten round tubes of paint. Those "glory days" are gone. And good riddance in many ways as far as I am concerned. I am spoiled by electronics. I love eyes and force fed hoppers. Gone are the games where I have to carry my squeegie with me on the field. I no longer count the times I break balls in a day , it has gotten down to the point of expecting not to have a break all month , ever....and I like it.

    No what this ramble was originally about was(many of)our incessant habit to gun whore. Now mind you , not all of us are afflicted with this mindless obsession. No ! I have friends who still pull out the same tippy , or spyder that they started playing with those many years ago.

    I bought a used Impulse a few days ago. Its an "older" marker , definately a long past flavor of the month. Its one of among many "E" markers I have owned through the years. I have spent much less , and WAY more for electronic markers than this one. But I came to the realization the other day while playing with this one that it was really not enough different from other markers that cost twice its price to have made that much difference. I could honestly have taken almost any one of the "E" markers I have ever owned , with a few dollars in upgrades to some and a Halo B on all of them and had basically the same end result. The only difference was asthetic.....

    And I continue to search for some different marker , expecting to find that grail.
    I am going back to the classifieds....see ya there !
  • alooney11
    I like Halo2
    • Oct 2004
    • 349

    #2
    good post
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    • WenULiVeUdiE
      Force of Nature Staff
      • Jan 2004
      • 1982

      #3
      taken almost any one of the "E" markers I have ever owned , with a few dollars in upgrades to some and a Halo B on all of them and had basically the same end result. The only difference was asthetic.....
      I'm guessing you havent tried a Viking or an Excal. yet.
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      • hobbesTZ
        :dodgy:
        • Aug 2002
        • 2219

        #4
        I gun whore like you wouldn't believe. I've owned over 30 markers. Everything is about the same to me, more or less. Depends on my financial situation at the time. I try to stop, I really do. I enjoy it so much, and browsing the forums and ebay for new equipment is enjoyable. I've always been a business man

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        • fred1
          Registered User
          • Oct 2003
          • 62

          #5
          half the fun...ok maybe not half the fun but part of the paintball experiance is owning and upgradeing guns...its just something you can watch yourself do and see it progress.
          1- 68 automag (CF 351XX) ULE, ULT, lvl 10
          2- 68 automag (CF 287XX) ANS bolt and on/off

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          • magman007
            I <3 my Penis
            • Jun 2001
            • 7579

            #6
            Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE
            I'm guessing you havent tried a Viking or an Excal. yet.

            no no, im sorry, but he is correct. ive owned a viking, and i wasnt really impressed with it



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            • Blazestorm
              I win
              • Feb 2002
              • 3523

              #7
              Yep, Vikings aren't much... they're damn reliable guns, but really aren't that much.

              Just sold my ND Freestyle for 1015 (No barrel)

              Picking up an Ego for 950 tomorrow...

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              • Enemy
                aKa PROZAC
                • Aug 2003
                • 1245

                #8
                i picked up a matrix for a teammate it was cheap about 1/4 the price of my xmag and i love the thing it shoots amazing i keep trying to give him back his racegun auto cocker for that matrix but alas no go!! its amazing how much we spend for so little!!
                VV04962 yeah thats my Pewter CnC X-mag

                Looking for a milled 04 featherlight viking!!!

                my feedback!!!http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...84#post1584884

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                • WenULiVeUdiE
                  Force of Nature Staff
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1982

                  #9
                  Originally posted by magman007
                  no no, im sorry, but he is correct. ive owned a viking, and i wasnt really impressed with it
                  I guess my standards are pretty low then...hehe. To me Vikings and Excals. are the cream of the crop.

                  I've always wanted to be a gun whore, but my dad wont let me
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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #10
                    Originally posted by punkncat
                    But I came to the realization the other day while playing with this one that it was really not enough different from other markers that cost twice its price to have made that much difference. I could honestly have taken almost any one of the "E" markers I have ever owned , with a few dollars in upgrades to some and a Halo B on all of them and had basically the same end result. The only difference was asthetic.....
                    Having shot most high end markers I agree - past a certain point there is very little difference. When I ordered a DevilMag I expect nothing in the way of performance advantages over my other markers (I might be surprised) but paid the price for exclusiveness. See my thread regarding prestige brands.. I honestly beleive there is a place for a marker company that makes prestigous markers with ridiculous prices that are somewhat exclusive considering that I beleive we have basically hit the limits of what we can expect performance wise - and have been there for awhile now (how many times has that been proven wrong in the past, I know). Seriously, look at the top line guns a year after the HALO was introduced - then look at the top line guns of today, how much difference is there? Sure all the features are now starting to come on every gun but there has been nothing it seems pushing the envelope of performance.
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                    • RRfireblade

                      • Jun 2002
                      • 5103

                      #11
                      Originally posted by punkncat
                      Why do we do it ? What magical combination are we looking for by switching markers all the time ?

                      Basically I think there are 2 kinds of Gun Whores.

                      1) Grown Ups.

                      I'll eloborate on that. I'm an Adult,and can afford to buy what ever I want...and often do.I'm not 'searching' for anything, just a change every so often.It could be anything from the DM5 I just picked up to some old pump I may come across. I also think there is no perfect marker,they're all different with different characteristics.I normally take 5-6 markers with me to play just to mix it up through out the day.Playing for me is just a Hobby like anyone else who builds RC stuff and has a number of them or motorcycles or.....whatever.I also keep a good percentage of the markers I own.... just cause.Then when I feel the need,I get another,which may or may not include trading off or selling something older.


                      2) Those that think that the 'new' marker just out is going to be dramatically better than everything else out.They also think they will be able to shoot it faster and it will make them a better player or somehow change thier life in some positive way.I get these people in the shop all the time. They have a perfectly good marker which is capable of way more they are capable of,so happens that's true of just about every decent marker out today,but because thier friends want one or the ' internet' says it's cool or.....something. They just must have it.

                      Oh, and a side note there....no matter what happened in 'reality' they never payed full price,sold thier old marker for twice what they payed for it and got a grand worth of accessories in the deal somehow.

                      Ultimately......what ever make you happy in your life,long as it's not hurting you or others is fine with me.Enjoy yourself as much as possible before they nail the lid on.
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                      • yakitori

                        #12
                        I love my viking, and I have shot a lot of markers too. It has been the most consistent of all my markers . Dont know what your talking about by they arent much?

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                        • Lohman446
                          Useful posts: 7
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 9315

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RRfireblade
                          Ultimately......what ever make you happy in your life,long as it's not hurting you or others is fine with me.Enjoy yourself as much as possible before they nail the lid on.
                          Agreed - just quit trying to justify it with a "logical" reason (you did not try that). I bought the last markers I bought because I wanted them, not because I needed them, not because they were going to improve my game signifigantly. Do I think some are better than others for my style, do I like some triggers better than others, do little things about some markers annoy me? Sure. Do they really have any effect on performance, at least at the level of skill I, and 99% of us playing have? Not a chance.
                          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                          • Lohman446
                            Useful posts: 7
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 9315

                            #14
                            Originally posted by yakitori
                            I love my viking, and I have shot a lot of markers too. It has been the most consistent of all my markers . Dont know what your talking about by they arent much?

                            No marker is anything special compared to other markers in the same category. Not even whatever you may own at the time. Get over it

                            That would come out as nice if it wasn't on an internet forum, it was meant as nicely as it could be.
                            "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                            • GT
                              Automag?
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 5786

                              #15
                              The only gun I have yet to own is a timmy, however:

                              Originally posted by punkncat
                              The only difference was asthetic.....
                              This didnt smack me so hard in the face until I bought a BKO. Dropped a halo on it and removed the trigger spring. Good GOD was that gun fast. And for what? I think the whole setup was less than 500 bucks. I played with this gun for a few months, it still needed eyes, however when I got my '04 featherlight viking I waited 7 months for and compared it to the bko, I thought and still do, that the BKO is a better gun. If I ever get the electro hair again I will be ordering an 05 b2k w/ pds.

                              One of my most favorite, consistant, relible guns, was an OTB'ed eclipse shocker. I easily maxed the ROF with the OTB frame, but even at 11ish bps it was still fast and I bought that gun for 325 bucks. I cant say enough good things about it.

                              Ironically I think the amount I paid for a gun is directly inporpationate to the value it holds. The best guns I have owned were all under 500 bucks. I am currently building an all ULE rtp that should be under 250 bucks
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