Alternate Scoring. (OR: Make Players Move...)

[tyrion2323]

Ehh...

Sounds like an artificial way to create hyper-fast games. Strategy and tactics are a big part of these "paint fling-fest and boring elimination games." With extremely tight time limits, it would become an all-out rush for the flag.

The NXL is already plenty fast and exciting, and NPPL is extremely fun to play, due to its fast breaks and game-openers.

I say keep things the way they are.

[mag88888]

tyrion, you live in Vermont? eh. where specifically? im around Burlington.

[SlartyBartFast]

Sounds like an artificial way to create hyper-fast games. Strategy and tactics are a big part of these "paint fling-fest and boring elimination games." With extremely tight time limits, it would become an all-out rush for the flag.

I'm not denying there's a strategy. It's just that the strategy is static:

1- Break and run to initial positions.
2- Ensure other team doesn't pull flag.
3- Eliminate other team.
4- Pull flag.
5- Hang Flag.

At least that's all I saw at the tournaments I watched.

The only thing that mixed it up were when the occasional last man standing made a desperate attempt to pull the flag.

The only drive at the beginning of the game is to find cover and then attempt eliminations. The flag isn't even a consideration. As someone else mentioned: why even bother with them?

If the scoring was balanced between quick flag pulls and hangs versus quick eliminations then each team would have to fix an objective in addition to breaking and finding cover. Cover the flag and go for eliminations or cover your runner and go for a pull then push hard for a hang. Or, go for a quick pull and then pull back defensively and play an elimination game.

[tyrion2323]

Slarty,

That certainly hasn't been my experience with tournaments. Of course, I'm not a pro, so I'm not usually playing in the big leagues; however, I've played many a tournament in which the securing of the flag half-way through the game actually placed us in the top three.

I think my resistance to the idea stems more from the face that the NPPL and NXL that I've been seeing has been extremely exciting. Watching Ollie Lang make fantastic tape runs gets my heart racing. Watching XBall is about as exciting and straightforward as I've experienced, though I do enjoy the chess-like strategy of NPPL a bit more.

Perhaps an alternative league, built up on the local level, would be a good breeding ground for your scoring system. Since it's on the local level, you might even see some new styles that the pros haven't uncovered...

I dunno, just a thought.

mag888888 - I live in Essex.

[Loud Tim]

ive heard this before from some of the old originbal s.o.b.s and i think someone patented it or something close to it. but where is beemer when you really need him

[SlartyBartFast]

the old original s.o.b.s

Who?!?

[mag88888]

Tyrion-sweet, i live in essex too. i said burlington just in case you lived in southern vermont and had no clue where essex was. most people know burlington better than essex. so where do you play? ive been to colchester, wiliston oasis(closed now), not much else. are there any indoor places around here?