Why does most paintball companies annoes their markers dust???

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  • RetroEclipseMan
    AO's Future Game Artist
    • Jun 2002
    • 1386

    #16
    Originally posted by CoolHand
    By and large, I think PB companies do a remarkable job removing the tool marks, to the point now that people are spoiled (if any little thing shows, its automatically junk). I personally like the look of a part that is just ano'ed right off the machine. Call it satin, whatever, I like the tool marks.
    I wouldn't really call it being spoiled though. I would say that as people are paying more money for a gun they're expecting it to be worth the price they paid. I know if I'm gonna drop over a $1000 on a gun it better be blemish free. That's one of the things that has turned me off of the Freestyles. Most of the ones I've seen have tons of tool marks and anno blemmishes right out of the box which is not acceptable. i do agree that dust does look a lot better and easier to clean for sure.
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    • RRfireblade

      • Jun 2002
      • 5103

      #17
      I'll second the "It's purely a cost issue".

      The vast majority of what we do is bead blasted simply because it's faster,easier and I can have anyone do it right upto the time it has to go out to anno.And yes it definately cleans up the item far faster and easier than polishing.

      DM4/5/P are a perfect example,you would be amazed at how rough they look prior to finishing,they bead blast the living daylights out of them to clean them up.I saw a raw body before finishing a couple years ago and it looked like it weas carved out with a Dremel.
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      • jamescell
        IBEW local 498
        • Aug 2004
        • 367

        #18
        Originally posted by RRfireblade
        I'll second the "It's purely a cost issue".

        The vast majority of what we do is bead blasted simply because it's faster,easier and I can have anyone do it right upto the time it has to go out to anno.And yes it definately cleans up the item far faster and easier than polishing.

        DM4/5/P are a perfect example,you would be amazed at how rough they look prior to finishing,they bead blast the living daylights out of them to clean them up.I saw a raw body before finishing a couple years ago and it looked like it weas carved out with a Dremel.
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        • C_22
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          • Sep 2003
          • 216

          #19
          Originally posted by Blazestorm
          Dust = Hides fingerprints and machining marks.
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          • phantomhitman
            ao's official bad guy
            • Oct 2003
            • 1841

            #20
            i have actually seen the opposite of what people are talking about. i looked for months for a place to ano my mag dust white, which is impossible by the way, so i looked at hundreds of markers online as well as at fields. the gloss, shiny coat tends to hide or reflect imperfections on the body but does show scratches better. but the dust shows absolutley everything that is wrong with the ano, the machining, flaws and variations, as well as different types of aluminum. i should not have gotten my mag done in dust now that i see how hard it is to work with but i still like dust colors better. i think my anodizer wasnt up to par either, but that is another story. everyone will see first hadn when i finally get my gun. i could be absolutely, %100 wrong, but that is what i noticed in my search.
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            • teufelhunden
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              • Jul 2003
              • 2691

              #21
              My bad on the machining thing. I had been led to believe that by a bud of mine who does a bit of metal work, but have no experience of my own. Thanks for correcting me.
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              • luke
                lukescustoms.com

                • Jan 2001
                • 8216

                #22
                the gloss, shiny coat tends to hide or reflect imperfections on the body but does show scratches better.
                That's not exactly true.
                By polishing the aluminum you are removing the machining marks, you don't see them because they aren't there.


                but the dust shows absolutely everything that is wrong with the ano, the machining, flaws and variations, as well as different types of aluminum.
                The bead blasting helps mask (hide) the imperfections, not necessarily remove them.

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                • CoolHand
                  Logic Industries LLC
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 3769

                  #23
                  Originally posted by luke
                  By polishing the aluminum you are removing the machining marks, you don't see them because they aren't there.
                  Boy, ain't that the truth.

                  You guys would be amazed at how much material is removed by polishing. I've seen a fool team up with a buffing wheel to destroy many a part in my time.

                  This is one reason why I get such a chuckle out of all the hubbub about tolerances and such that circulates around here from time to time. Doesn't do much good to cut to -+0.001", if the buffing monkey peels 0.015" off while he buffs it (which is entirely possible).

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                  • steveg
                    Member
                    • May 2001
                    • 460

                    #24
                    Originally posted by CoolHand
                    Boy, ain't that the truth.

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                    This is one reason why I get such a chuckle out of all the hubbub about tolerances and such that circulates around here from time to time. Doesn't do much good to cut to -+0.001", if the buffing monkey peels 0.015" off while he buffs it (which is entirely possible).

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                    • Physco
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                      • Feb 2005
                      • 28

                      #25
                      i say its get rid of the Shine, so it will work fine for woods/rec

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                      • Xyxyll
                        Old School Airsmith

                        • Apr 2003
                        • 1161

                        #26
                        I love dust/satin/matt because it shows off the curves of a marker a lot more than polish ano does. Now to get my Karta beadblasted and reanoed.

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                        • jamescell
                          IBEW local 498
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 367

                          #27
                          Originally posted by CoolHand
                          Boy, ain't that the truth.

                          You guys would be amazed at how much material is removed by polishing. I've seen a fool team up with a buffing wheel to destroy many a part in my time.

                          This is one reason why I get such a chuckle out of all the hubbub about tolerances and such that circulates around here from time to time. Doesn't do much good to cut to -+0.001", if the buffing monkey peels 0.015" off while he buffs it (which is entirely possible).

                          :rofl:
                          LOL thats awsome! I was waiting for something like that to come up in the which one is better thread.
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