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  • FallNAngel
    Registered User
    • Apr 2003
    • 1076

    #16
    Originally posted by tippmannsniper-
    alright here we go....

    lpr= TURN IT DOWN

    trigger= make the magnet decently hard but still comfy and set the actication point out a bit so that it fires RIGHT before the set screw touches the frame and pretravel must be atleast 2 mm

    settings= coff must be a little high like 24 and for the filter put your release high

    thats all i got but the trigger is the most important

    You may also want to add "remove QEV's" to that list as well.
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    • phantomhitman
      ao's official bad guy
      • Oct 2003
      • 1841

      #17
      Originally posted by hobbesTZ
      You can also use the samurai trigger to help eleminate bounce.
      a saurai will def add bounce. it is lighter, and for some other reason it is really really hard to kill bounce on. i have installed a few of them, one on my eblade also, and had to set them for tournie use. it took about an hour for each gun. i did use the trigger filters a little, but even that would not cure it. ihad to make teh triggers magnets stronger, to the point were i lost most of the speed of the eblade. you can only turn the lpr down so much before the marker does not cycle, and teh only way to kill the kick of the ebalde is lighter parts. also, why would you take off the qevs, or was that a sarcastic comment?

      so save up some cash to get that cocker cycling smoother and faster!!
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      • FallNAngel
        Registered User
        • Apr 2003
        • 1076

        #18
        The QEV's make the backblock and bolt assembly move different... "harder" is kinda the word I'm looking for. Since there's very little resistance with the cocking assembly moving back and forth, it moves in a much more deliberate movement, which can add to mech bounce. At least, so I'm told. It makes sense to me and wouldn't surprise me if it were true.
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        • phantomhitman
          ao's official bad guy
          • Oct 2003
          • 1841

          #19
          but the qevs add cycle speed, so you will basically be slowing it down.....which is an interesting way to cut down on bounce
          you will reduce bounce, but you will reduce speed...whihc is mroe important
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          • minimag03
            WVU paintball #19
            • Dec 2003
            • 2214

            #20
            E has a new board out called something like ZeroBounce. Try that if you have the money.
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            • tippmannsniper-
              dont have a tipman, really
              • Jun 2004
              • 575

              #21
              ^^ ya thats the e2 board made for an e1 has almost the same features as an e2 not all the features though
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              • FallNAngel
                Registered User
                • Apr 2003
                • 1076

                #22
                Originally posted by phantomhitman
                but the qevs add cycle speed, so you will basically be slowing it down.....which is an interesting way to cut down on bounce
                you will reduce bounce, but you will reduce speed...whihc is mroe important
                but you will also have the same cycle speed as before, but at a lower LPR pressure.
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                • phantomhitman
                  ao's official bad guy
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1841

                  #23
                  maybe your right, im sure everyone knows mroe than me about eblades at this point...mine is not working
                  i thought for sure teh qevs released the air faster therefore helped the gun cycle faster. how would taking the qevs off let the gun cycle at the same speed as well as drop pressure. why would everyone in the world recommend qevs for a cocker also? please inform, this is not a srcstic comment.
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                  • tippmannsniper-
                    dont have a tipman, really
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 575

                    #24
                    he doesnt know what hes talking about
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                    • Flow_Tech
                      AKA Couponqueen89
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 1571

                      #25
                      Zero B board is th eonly way to go..or
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                      • barrel break
                        Too much time
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 643

                        #26
                        Adhesive dispensing systems for controlled application of glues, adhesives, chemicals and other assembly fluids

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                        • FSU_Paintball
                          (well, not any longer)
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 618

                          #27
                          Originally posted by FallNAngel
                          The QEV's make the backblock and bolt assembly move different... "harder" is kinda the word I'm looking for. Since there's very little resistance with the cocking assembly moving back and forth, it moves in a much more deliberate movement, which can add to mech bounce. At least, so I'm told. It makes sense to me and wouldn't surprise me if it were true.
                          Well, here's the thing... if you've got QEVs, what it does is increase your cycle speed. You're right about it feeling "harder" and that's because the thing moves back faster, and snaps closed much faster as well. So you're right in a way.

                          However, I used to own a Dye Ultralite, which is virtually *identical* to the reflex.

                          I had a delrin bolt, which helped a bit since it was a bit lighter in terms of moving mass, but I found that it was more desireable to keep the QEVs on there and instead mess with the settings a bit.

                          Also, I found that while the gun, especially with QEVs and high settings on, would bounce like a FREAKIN MOTHER when dry, was *much* tamer with paint in it.

                          I'd try putting your COFF around the 22-24 area, turning your trigger filters up, and making sure that your trigger is not TOO light, and that your trigger stops aren't sitting right on top of the firing point.

                          With my personal setup, I was tourney legal for World Cup and several other tournies with settings around COFF 22, trigger filters at 5 and 15, and a fairly light short trigger pull (but not REAL light or short) with the firing point in the middle. I had an ultralite, delrin bolt, nexus ram with QEVs and the stock trigger.



                          As far as the samurai goes... it completely takes the bounce out of some people's guns, and it adds more into others. Use at your own risk.
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