Sigs getting turned off

[TheTramp]

Text only with a limited nuber of characters is the way to go IMHO. I hope that this is the what happens be it soon or in a few months.

[shartley]

The problem I see is that some people want to cause trouble. As miscue pointed out - EVERYTIME any of us do something we get met with a load of immaturity and crybaby antics. We get THREATS. We get cursed at. Its just not cool And I only get a smidge of what the other mods get as they are more prolific.

The problem isnt Sigs, as others pointed out. It is certain people. And theses people forget AO doesnt belong to them. They want to strongarm their opinions onto others. They want to help decide who goes and who stays. Well it doesnt work like that. This is a public forum - but it is REGULATED. We are the regulators.

If I were to bet, I would say Sigs might come back in a few months. Even if in just Text form. But I suppose that will depend on several other things happening.

Part of the great thing about AO and WHY its grown is its community like astmosphere. There are regulars and people known for certain things. There is enough of a base that when there is a big event AOers can congregate. But - just like any group - we now have little cliches. Groups of "Jets" and "Sharks" who dont like eachother and have thier own little slap fest here. If people could just learn to ignore those who bug them - this wouldnt be such a dramatic place at time.

[TheTramp]

I have begun to not even care about this issue anymore; it has fallen on deaf ears and blind eyes.

That's a lot of post then.

[bornl33t]

I don't care about sigs either. But lets face it favoritism is rampant latly. Ppl get away with stuff that should NO WAY NO HOW be alowed on a PG forum. I will ban my kids from ever visiting AO.

[dave p]

hey toasterstreudel and warped one:

who are you chumps? neither one of you own or run this place. AGD existed before you came here and likely will after you leave. what exactly are your contributions, and what makes you feel you influence anyone? . thank god for the ignore list, far more useful than sigs. the more morons like you two i add to that list, the better my experience here is.

later dudes.

[FallNAngel]

But you can blame the patient for it... if he keeps sticking his head in the microwave for fun. "Stop sticking your head in the microwave." "No! Bloody murder! Abuse!!! Abuse!!!! I've been violated!!!"

Heh, I read this and thought "Help, help! I'm being repressed! Now you see the violence inherent in the system!"

Anyway, having been a mod (super mod actually) before, I can see both sides of the arguement. It's easy for mods to get ticked having to deal with the same thing over and over again ("This sig *still* doesn't follow the rules... again") and rarely get praise from a good call. Basically they get almost all of the blame and zero praise for their work. However, there are other times when the mods *ARE* to blame... sometimes it's just misunderstanding what someone said and taking the right course of action based on bad information.

It's rather hard to keep track of many users and keep everyone in check, so when someone slips through, everyone is quick to point out how *they* didn't get in trouble, but someone else did. I think mods should own up when something *does* go wrong, admit it and rectify the situation and users need to start taking responsibility for their own actions.

[peewee]

Cool!!! Not to stir the bucket but I don't really see the need for big o pictures etc. I am blissfully ignorant of most of the drama around here being fairly new. I ghosted the site off & on for a couple years mainly as a resource for info on the mag. I did notice everyone here had an "Us against the world" outlook on paintball at one time. That was when a vast majority had mags. It seems like the water is muddy now.

[bornl33t]

But you can blame the patient for it... if he keeps sticking his head in the microwave for fun. "Stop sticking your head in the microwave." "No! Bloody murder! Abuse!!! Abuse!!!! I've been violated!!!"

Ok, but how does a user follow the rules when mods can't? Talk about conveniantly leaving out the details.

It has very little to do with what I want. It has more to do with people getting off this one subject. Do you under stand ho wmany god damn rules that kid broke ? It has been repeted several times over and over. He had multible ban evasions, Sig Abuse issues and in general was behaving like an asshat.

Sig abuse? How about "serving AGD" and "penis" is the same sig? Wow what a way to represent AGD.

Serving AGD customers since 93, wishing I could beat some common sence into some of them about 5 hrs later.

(cphilip) Cool I am screwing the hellout of it and its getting better!
(Army) I gots boobs! well, little tiny ones, but gosh are they firm!
(TNS2k2) yeah, my ARM really got pummeled
(TNS2k2) I just took it.
(Crazy) Curly
(Crazy) i'd do it with you.

(Miscue) I should have studied genetics and figured out how to take the witch gene out of hoes.
(BlackVCG) Not possible.

(Mister44): dude
(Mister44): SCREW YOU
(Rob_AGD):
(Mister44): i offered to suck his penis

Oh, that's right! It's legal.... wait or is it?

My sig does not break ANY rules. It maybe in poor taste, it may not be Black and white good or bad but I put it there for a reason.

I would assume that mods should be straight white or? Being in leadership and all? And while we're on the topic, how many mods can be contacted to give a "reason" for something a mod disaproves of? I think that webby and two mods have a contact E-mail listed?

The users aren't inocent, but let him with no sin through the first stone.
TIm

[MarkM]

I would assume that mods should be straight white or? Being in leadership and all? And while we're on the topic, how many mods can be contacted to give a "reason" for something a mod disaproves of? I think that webby and two mods have a contact E-mail listed?
TIm

All 6 of the Mods listed for this and the other forums all have the email facility enabled on all of their profiles..the Meet the Moderators doesn't (I am not on there at all, though I will be talking with Webby to get that changed but it isn't high on his prioritys and nor should it be) but that is part of the site and as users ourselves we all have our Emails enabled as well as PM's switched on.

It is little digs like this that build into bigger things, one of the recently banned (if you agree with that or not) still couldn't let it lie and opened his next post with "First post from ban" Now this isn't searching to victimise a user (I haven't banned/eddited or even commented in the thread since it would become a threadjack here however it is on topic, just about) I simply read the thread and it was there for all to see and when I went to read the thread his post was not the most recent so I had no idea he had even taken part in the thread.

People have complained about the PSP new rules as being too confusing...myself included on that subject, on AO we have what should be an easier to understand set of rules.
Guideline is the same as a Rule regardless of the people who try and push and shove those words around. The signatures may not be the main cause of things however they are one of the highest issues so removing them makes sense, as it is obvious that currently some people cannot follow the rules for their use and when they fall foul of these rules complain about that and anything else they feel will stir things up.
It is Tom's ball and he can take it home anytime he wants.

[bornl33t]

All 6 of the Mods listed for this and the other forums all have the email facility enabled on all of their profiles..the Meet the Moderators doesn't (I am not on there at all, though I will be talking with Webby to get that changed but it isn't high on his prioritys and nor should it be) but that is part of the site and as users ourselves we all have our Emails enabled as well as PM's switched on.

It is little digs like this that build into bigger things, one of the recently banned (if you agree with that or not) still couldn't let it lie and opened his next post with "First post from ban" Now this isn't searching to victimise a user (I haven't banned/eddited or even commented in the thread since it would become a threadjack here however it is on topic, just about) I simply read the thread and it was there for all to see and when I went to read the thread his post was not the most recent so I had no idea he had even taken part in the thread.

People have complained about the PSP new rules as being too confusing...myself included on that subject, on AO we have what should be an easier to understand set of rules.
Guideline is the same as a Rule regardless of the people who try and push and shove those words around. The signatures may not be the main cause of things however they are one of the highest issues so removing them makes sense, as it is obvious that currently some people cannot follow the rules for their use and when they fall foul of these rules complain about that and anything else they feel will stir things up.
It is Tom's ball and he can take it home anytime he wants.

Yeah, I realize that the e-mails are in the profiles, unfortunatly when your banned you don't have access to those.

[slade]

ive got an idea, how bout we are allowed to have sigs, and the first time your sig disobeys any rule, it is removed for a week and you get a warning to have it fixed. the second time, you lose the ability to have a sig forever.

[Lohman446]

ive got an idea, how bout we are allowed to have sigs, and the first time your sig disobeys any rule, it is removed for a week and you get a warning to have it fixed. the second time, you lose the ability to have a sig forever.

That requires work and action on the mods, and that results in whining. The new solution has solved the problems of sigs entirely

Be good, get along, quit whining to TK (not you, not singling out anyone) and maybe just maybe we will get them back some day

[AGD-OfficeGal]

Originally posted by Lohman446:
Be good, get along, quit whining to TK (not you, not singling out anyone) and maybe just maybe we will get them back some day

That's just what I said about 30 posts back and was completely ignored. Hope they listen to you!

Dragon Lady

[slade]

That requires work and action on the mods, and that results in whining. The new solution has solved the problems of sigs entirely

Be good, get along, quit whining to TK (not you, not singling out anyone) and maybe just maybe we will get them back some day

hey, im just trying to come up with a solution. the only problem with my proposed idea is that someone has to write the code. and getting arid of sigs doesnt solve the problem, it just makes it so that mods dont have to deal with it.

[Lohman446]

hey, im just trying to come up with a solution. the only problem with my proposed idea is that someone has to write the code. and getting arid of sigs doesnt solve the problem, it just makes it so that mods dont have to deal with it.

It gets rid of any sig issue... might not get back to the base cause of it, but it may get everyones attention, and when you look at TKs first post, maybe just maybe get peoples attention before AO becomes a nuisance to him.