Superbolt Update #2

[steveg]

aluminum .096~.102 lb/in3
titanium .162~.171 lb/in3
stainless .270~.290 lb/in3

delrin .052 lb/in3 (I think)

cool but irrelevant fact: titanium can be anodized

[MajorDamage]

Have you thought of teflon coated aluminum? Might make it smoother? I donno, just a thought. Although I think delerin is the way to go if it can be done.

ENDO!

[iisp0tii]

thats a good thought, i know my J&J ceramic is smooth & light, so teflon coating aluminum would quite possibly work.

[liigod]

Blowback

Hey tom, how about you make the superbolts teflon aluminum, then to remove un necissary weight, then in inside the bolt make milling patterns that would re-enforce the bolt but make it so u could remove enough material to make it light. Finally, dont worry about using delrin because of lubeing it, use it because of weight. i like the carbon fiber boltideas too. Make them teflon coated and yer good. Finally the biggest issue for bolt with me is NOT kick or lubeing it, its blowback because i use a vert feed mag with a booyah, a very heavily modifyed booyah, and i would like to do 15 pbs full auto with a halo. But im shure i wont be able to since with the current amount of blowback with the vert feed i can only get 11 bps witha short hopper clamp, and with a HUGE purple kingman one that stacks like 10 balls i can get 12 oe 13. but then my TINY gun its tall as hell and feels all wrong. how about an O-ring on the front?! or sumething, this blowback is just rediculous tho.

[ah137]

I like the idea of making a replacement aluminum sleave. If this turns out to not work well, back burner it is.

later Hills

[oneshot]

Tom, keep up the good work

I have a question, are the super bolts breaking in the sfls and your test extremes like they are in some of the twistlock guns?

If they are not breaking in the non-twistlock barrels you should just stop making the bolts for those guns and put all your work into the extremes. Just tell us that the only way we can use super bolts is if we upgrade to a non-twistlock barrel body (extremes or proteams)

I would gladly upgrade to an extreme if it meant that we could use the superbolts. (plus the ace is also a nice add on)

But don't give up on the superbolt all together, when i got my super bolt I was thinking of selling my emag because the kick and breaking of paint bothered me. The super bolt changed my mind ,and I decided not to sell my emag.

sorry for being so long, just my two cents.

[Dragoon]

I really like the SB. For me recoil is an issue. Less recoil means I can keep on target better. I'm not an engineer, but if the delrin ends up not being suitable, I would like to see an aluminum or Titanium bolt. I would also like to see them keep to foamies.

Douglas

[Manuel_FZR]

The titanium will save not so much weight ...
I think, carbon fibre (if possible) will be perfect. Another solution would be a complete aluminium bolt. And there are some aluminium alloys, witch have also less wear and tear than ss and are verry lightweight.

[tremis]

I have a carbon fibre question for zads27. If the carbon reinforces the epoxy, how do formula one brake shoes hold together? They use no epoxy, since it would just melt. I have heard that it takes like 6 months to make one under some extreme amount of pressure. But it sounds like the epoxy in CF is the main part and the fibres just strenghtens it. I had thought that the fibers were the main ingerdient and the epoxy just held it together. Of course I know squat about CF. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Tremis

[Hysperion]

I'm personally more worried about having a KAPP then saving a little weight. I think if you make a titanium bolt, you will probably save about 40% on weight over the standard bolt. Not as good as the delrin bolt but you really have to look at the whole picture. If the bolt weights only 1/10 the total weight of the gun and you shave off 40% of the bolts weight. You are taking off about 1/20 of the guns weight. If you use delrin and shave off 75% of the bolts weight (I don't know the actual #'s) you are taking off about 1/18 of the guns weight. I don't really think most people would be able to tell the difference anyways and think titanium would be a good compromise. The only thing is it would probably cost more. But I'm willing to pay the price to put it in my SFL.....

[DrEvil]

i like my superbolt.