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  • Nexus
    Registered User
    • Nov 2003
    • 127

    #1

    can someone help me really quickly?

    Ok, I just gassed up my brand new ULE mag, loaded it, and the rest of that stuff. Now, nothing happens when I pull the trigger. I took it apart a couple times, but I am having trouble imagining what I could have put together wrong. There are only a couple parts. Help?
  • Dryden
    Team Nemesis

    • Jun 2003
    • 931

    #2
    Is there any pressure on the trigger at all? Does the marker make a clicking sound when you gas it up? Do you have a full, high pressure output tank? ~800psi
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    • Nexus
      Registered User
      • Nov 2003
      • 127

      #3
      When I said "nothing" I really meant it :).

      Edit: There is no pressure, no clicking, and my tank is full.
      Could I have somehow put the sear in wrong? I see the metal pin behind the trigger, so . . . I guess there isn't anything I am supposed to cock is there?

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      • stondroopy
        Registered User
        • Jun 2003
        • 874

        #4
        when i got my xvalve new,i had to turn up the velocity,crank it right a few times
        http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126801

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        • Enemy
          aKa PROZAC
          • Aug 2003
          • 1245

          #5
          do we still have a tech forum??? i miss cphil
          VV04962 yeah thats my Pewter CnC X-mag

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          • phantomhitman
            ao's official bad guy
            • Oct 2003
            • 1841

            #6
            phil is gone??

            um, either you are getting no air to the gun or the velocity is low. make sure you have a high pressure tank. make sure air is going to the gun (make sure the pin on yoru tank is being pushed in by your asa, make sure you dont have a block in your air line). it shuld def make a click sound when you gas it up.
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            • Nexus
              Registered User
              • Nov 2003
              • 127

              #7
              Thanks, I talked to tech support at AGD (great support BTW). After the guy walked me through several possibilities step by step for at least half an hour, he told me it was probably my tank. He said he had worked on a gun before with the same problem, and it worked in the factor but not once it was sent back. Apparently, it turned out that the tank didn't actually have the output of 800psi that is was rated to have. Guess what? This guy's tank is the same type and brand as mine: an ACI Bulldog. Great . . . I've got quite a problem for tommorow now. Anyways, the store I bought it from does any work required on the tank for free, so hopefully I won't have to do anything horribly expensive like getting a new tank. Thanks guys (and AGD tech support).

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              • Ole Unka Phil
                I used to care...
                • Jan 2004
                • 744

                #8
                Seems like no one uses the tech forum anymore does it? Bah!

                Your regulator valve pin assembly is sticking. Take it out and grease it or oil it. They constantly come too tight and need loosening up. Common problem on a new valve.

                This thing:



                Oil it! Outside surface. Its hiding in the back half of your valve. Don't lose anything and make note of where everything is. Its tough to pull outa its hole but it will come. Grease it or oil it good.

                Then it will work.
                Last edited by Ole Unka Phil; 03-11-2005, 07:13 PM.
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                • Nexus
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 127

                  #9
                  I'm sorry, I would have posted this in tech, but it was pretty time sensitive and I thought I would get a faster reply in talk. I will try the reg pin thing.

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                  • Nexus
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 127

                    #10
                    Sorry Ole, I tried it, but without success. I yanked it out, coated it in oil and shoved it back in, but to no avail. Thanks anyways. I think the theory involving a tank with less than its correct output is what I am going with now. Its too bad for you really; I was ready to fall down and call you blessed :). I really wanted to use this thing tommorow. Now I will have to use my tippman A5.

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                    • Ole Unka Phil
                      I used to care...
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 744

                      #11
                      Not to worry. It was not a waste of time. It needed to be done anyway...

                      You sure you got air IN the tank?

                      Are you sure the tank is pressurizing the line? Do you hear a whooosh of air into the line? And a hiss when you unscrew it? Sometimes those ASA's pins are not long enough to engage the tanks valve.

                      As you screw in the tank hold the trigger back and listen for the air. You can cock one eventualy with only 600 PSI. It might be slow but.. we deal with that later.

                      Have you tried turning up the Velocity?

                      I am getting suspicious your tanks needle is not being depressed by the ASA's pin... or your not getting air at all
                      Want some Candy little Girl?

                      ... and...It's not my fault anymore!!!!

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                      • Nexus
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 127

                        #12
                        The pin is definitely getting depressed. In fact, I have used a substantial amount of that air working on this dumb thing. The lack of the sound of rushing air when engaging and disengaging is something I would notice.

                        Edit: I have tried turning up the velocity. It still looks like it could be the tank.

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                        • Ole Unka Phil
                          I used to care...
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 744

                          #13
                          Well could be.... another thing I might mention is that some ASA's depress the tanks pin TOO far and that cuts off the flow. You try that tank on another marker? Or even try putting a second tank Oring down in the ASA to make the tank seat further out? Worth a shot.
                          Want some Candy little Girl?

                          ... and...It's not my fault anymore!!!!

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                          • Dirge
                            BIGEVILONLINE

                            • May 2004
                            • 500

                            #14
                            Sorry man, it's your tank. Thats the same one I had (a bulldog III). The Mag worked..... sort of . When it did work, it would sooner than later starve it self and not work. To get it running again, unscrew it until the marker is degassed then rescrew it. Get a crossfire. They cost about the same and have no starving problems. Hope this helps a little.
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                            • Dragonfly
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 5

                              #15
                              Do you have another tank you can borrow? To verify if it is your tank with the problem, try your buddy's tank with your gun. Maybe he can try your tank on his gun.

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