ecocker vs. emag

**SlartyBartFast** · 03-24-2005, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by JoshK

Also to some extent that article you quoted is not very acurate because that much be a older article...there is no need for a "black box", both guns are now both stupidly fast, they both shoot the same distance, and with the same accuracy.

And both guns were back then as well.

90% of all "mods" that players get all hyped up on are simply placebos. The money would have been better spent on paint and practice.

**SlartyBartFast** · 03-24-2005, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by MonsterMag

You put a $200 barrel kit on any marker and it will shoot great

Hone a cheap one piece and it will shoot great. $200 dollar barrel kits are just great examples of the power of hype and marketing removing money from your wallet.

**JoshK** · 03-24-2005, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast

And both guns were back then as well.

90% of all "mods" that players get all hyped up on are simply placebos. The money would have been better spent on paint and practice.

I assume back when that article was writen, there were neither rt type valves or electro mags.

**Maggot6** · 03-24-2005, 06:19 PM

I skipped your entire thread, so if this has been mentioned excuse this

Contact Tuna
Get him to build you the best emag ever

Or

Contact Gadevil
Get him to build you a devil mag

**JoshK** · 03-24-2005, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by Maggot6

I skipped your entire thread, so if this has been mentioned excuse this

Contact Tuna
Get him to build you the best emag ever

Or

Contact Gadevil
Get him to build you a devil mag

EDIT: sorry...was the wrong thread. But I guess that would be cool for him...but that would also be much more expensive.

**93civiccpe** · 03-24-2005, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast

...You need HIP WADERS not boots to get through the BS of that thing. Almost as good as the spin SP said their ported barrels gave the ball.

You should have your liscence revoked.

...

Wow.. first I don't know what a liscense is... maybe you meant license. (not the first canuk who couldn't write). Then again, I doubt you have a chance at an engineering degree after reading that. I wish I could understand more of what you typed, but either your english is bad or you typed way too fast. I am an engineer.. I understand these guns at the most basic level. I also know what running a gun on low pressure does for it, and yes it does affect the flight. I have set up on a consistant stand a mech cocker and a mech mag, both with freak kits. The mag had more $ in it at the time as it had x-valve. Neither gun was mine. (It was a college project). The results had them being almost the same except when you got to somewhere around 240ft away or something. At that range neither were impressive though.

If you go back and read, I never made any of those changes to my mag. I like mine the way it was. As i said, I have tried OTHER PEOPLE'S mags who had done mods. I didn't see anything worthy of me doing it to my mag. Once again, I never said every autococker was more accurate than every mag. FOR GOSH SAKES TRY READING THIS LINE AGAIN. I HAVE BOTH A MAG AND A COCKER. I PLAY THEM BOTH AND ENJOY THEM BOTH. I LIKE THE DIFFERENT ENGINEERING OF BOTH.

I think it is sad how all the mag fans who love talking smack about killing cockers are quick to jump on the mag side and trying to stop stupidity. I'm done posting on this thread. I like both of my guns.. and I'm actually intelligent to know what the differences and limitations of both are, and also that this rivalry is stupid. If I posted an article about mags & cockers in an autococker forum and i mentioned anything good about the mag then I know I would get the same thing. I thought we had more open minded people in here who could respect any gun, not just the one they have in their bag. And btw, I have had electro's of both. I like the mechs better for now.

**Dayspring** · 03-24-2005, 10:34 PM

So being that the mag takes a pressure over 500, that makes it a High pressure input marker. But in your expert opinion, is it a low on-ball pressure marker? I know the answer to this, I don't think you do.

And we're not bashing cockers. Far from it. We're bashing the fact that you still think that the cocker is more accurate. Tests have been done. Many times over. And they all say you're wrong.

**Carbon** · 03-24-2005, 11:13 PM

why is this thread so 1995

**MonsterMag** · 03-24-2005, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast

Hone a cheap one piece and it will shoot great. $200 dollar barrel kits are just great examples of the power of hype and marketing removing money from your wallet.

You get the point

**SpecialBlend2786** · 03-25-2005, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by Carbon

why is this thread so 1995

JUST WHAT I WAS THINKING

**Pr0d1gy** · 03-25-2005, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by deathstalker

I thought this was put to bed years ago.

Yeah man, even back in the day when I was playing this myth was constantly thrown about. A properly setup Mag can be every bit as accurate as the best Cocker ever made. Hell my old Minimag was the most accurate gun on the field alot of days...BUT, accuracy is only determined by your barrel & paint matching up, Go to PBnation's forums to the Airgun Designs thread & read the why I should buy a Mag sticky...says it all.

***Oh and one other thing, there's nothing worse than missing a round or more of paintball because you are sitting at the load out area trying to get your gun working right. Mag's are 99.999% reliable.

**Jack & Coke** · 03-25-2005, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Dayspring

And we're not bashing cockers. Far from it. We're bashing the fact that you still think that the cocker is more accurate. Tests have been done. Many times over. And they all say you're wrong.

cockers are not more accurate. Come on man, everyone knows they shoot farther and flatter.

**deathstalker** · 03-25-2005, 06:48 AM

Won't somebody think of the gnomes?!?

**Dayspring** · 03-25-2005, 08:21 AM

Thanks Jerk... I mean Jack!

Originally posted by Jack & Coke

cockers are not more accurate. Come on man, everyone knows they shoot farther and flatter.

**SlartyBartFast** · 03-29-2005, 10:35 AM