New air tank from Poland???

[MarkM]

The bottles are being made the the new Euopean specs which means a PI label the test procedures for PI stamped bottle in some respects exceeds the DOT standard just as in some aspects the DOT stamp exceeds the PI label.

Legal in the US? nope not unless you are a visiting european player...unfortunately Europe officially doesn't extend the same courtesy to DOT bottles even if you are an visting american national...note "officially"

As for bashing the US...every country can be bashed it is small minded individuals that do it to whichever country you would like to name.
The most annoying thing is visting nationals whining about how they can't get whatever it is in their own country...I will admit I avoid chocolate when I am in the US as I don't like the taste compared to my own countrys but then a great many other things are better than my home...or can't be got here.
You have to eat the local food or do as the locals do to be polite. I don't actively seek out english chippys when I go to Spain or wherever. I try and eat the local food, if I want that food well I could stay at home and that kinda defeats the idea of travelling.
Many years ago I went to France to visit Euro Disney, as it was named then, one of the people who came with the group worked for Burger King and despite being in France (noted as one of the best countrys for food) all he wanted to do was find a McDonalds...pathetic...I went out for a meal with my girlfirend and had a meal in a nice restaraunt, totally screwed up and got all the wrong food (waiters didn't speak any english and my french is pretty rusty) but that was half the fun...at least I got the steak bit correct it was the veggies I got wrong.
Something that is being touched on (well flames are brewing) is the subject of origin....in the US alone people say they are African American, Irish American etc etc...people for all countries other that the US else will say they are Swedish, English whatever...so unless you have just landed from whichever country, you are American nothing else...you may well have ancestors not from the US but YOU are American. This may be PC it may not but it is a statement of what is not what you would like it to be.

[NukeGoose]

This may be something that I've heard a few rumors about, though I heard that it was Crossfire that was coming out with the new bottles. I've heard from a few people that a new plastic composite tank is in the works that's lighter than anything on the market, with a 45/4500 tank weighing in under a pound.

[FireITup14]

Viva poland!

[Target Practice]

You know, I had a wonderful Polish joke lined up for this thread, but I figured it would be a bad idea.

So, who likes bike rides?

[master_alexander]

american: fat stupid football player (told to me by german relatives) but then again germany is old and so s all of europe...

and a tank from europe is cool, but not worth he extra to save on weight.

[Vex]

You know, I had a wonderful Polish joke lined up for this thread, but I figured it would be a bad idea.

So, who likes bike rides?

Hahahahaha! Good one!

[devildog]

although many countries in eastern europe are third world, poland is not one of them.

[spacedtedybear]

I'll wait to see what these bottles are like before commenting on them. My flatline has a little less than 2 years left. Anything thats lighter but still functions as well as current tanks is very appealing.

excuse me, a unity. Let me ask where your ancestors came from?

As far as unity goes, the US is far older. If you were refering to the individual countries....
My ancestors were from China. Or if you want to go much further back, Africa.

Bashing America seems to be the continental pastime over there in Europe lately.

I will admit I avoid chocolate when I am in the US as I don't like the taste compared to my own countrys but then a great many other things are better than my home...or can't be got here.

That I have to agree for the most part. Some of the stuff they import here into the US may be pretty steep in price, but it's worth it.

[gc82000]

A bottle from Poland huh. Is it made by them?



I would rather hae some Polish beer then a tank.

[SAW]

You know, I had a wonderful Polish joke lined up for this thread, but I figured it would be a bad idea.

So, who likes bike rides?

Buhahah

[yakitori]

I have no idea what you are trying to say here. Have you tried new batteries?

The old "Iron Curtain" contains a lot of countries that are economically and socially challenged. I hate to be so non-PC, but thats the way it is. They are working at it, but I think ill avoid buying something that is pressurized to 4500 psi and placed inches from my face from anyplace other than the US or MAJOR European countries.

And perpetuting the American stereotype, are you kidding me? Bashing America seems to be the continental pastime over there in Europe lately. As far as I am concerned, its open season.

I cant believe you have no idea what Im saying. You said you will not buy bottles from a thrid world country, and you choose life.

I said....Poland is not a third world country. and Ehehm, incase you havent noticed, the bottles are supposedly from poland.

If you have no idea what Im talking about then youre an idiot. And there is good reason for Americans being bashed by European countries. Internationally, American government is double standard.

As for America being an older unity, Ill have to see some evidence of that. If you want to consider the 13 colonies, then Im sure there is some older unity in Europe at that time. I will try to find some historical info about it.

The ppl you bash are the same ones your go to when you need support for war, and calling them a third world country doesnt help your cause.

At least be respectful.

[KayleAGD]

I held one of the bottles this weekend. The bottles we use now have an aluminum liner wrapped in carbon fiber. The poland bolltes are solid fiber. There is a little weight difference. On the down side they are about 75.00 more. They are over a year away from getting any kind of DOT rating.

[Steelrat]

I cant believe you have no idea what Im saying. You said you will not buy bottles from a thrid world country, and you choose life.

I said....Poland is not a third world country. and Ehehm, incase you havent noticed, the bottles are supposedly from poland.

If you have no idea what Im talking about then youre an idiot. And there is good reason for Americans being bashed by European countries. Internationally, American government is double standard.

As for America being an older unity, Ill have to see some evidence of that. If you want to consider the 13 colonies, then Im sure there is some older unity in Europe at that time. I will try to find some historical info about it.

The ppl you bash are the same ones your go to when you need support for war, and calling them a third world country doesnt help your cause.

At least be respectful.

I didn't ask anyone to support any war, thank you.

Poland may not technically be a third-world country, but I'm not about to buy an air tank from them, especially when manufacturing deficiencies in tanks can have serious consequences. And guess what? Thats completely up to me. Thank you, come again!

[Lohman446]

Poland is not a third world country. I dont know many of those that exist in Europe. Europe is a one of the wealthiest countries and is much older than US. I dont see any humor in insulting them. You are contributing to the prepetual ingorant american stereotype. Please dont contribute to ignorance.

But, no, I would not buy a bottle from overseas. Why would you just to save a bit of weight. Thats a bad decision.

I just had to point these out, even though they have been corrected. How is Europe older than America? Have some countries in Eurpose existed longer than the United States - sure they have, but the land has been here for the same time. I would argue that some of the countries in Eastern Europe exist in conditions that are only marginally better than the classic definition of third world. That being said, I don't think this bottle is a safety risk, I assume they have been hydro tested and are rated well below maximum capacity. As mentioned, as filling them in the US is questionable, I would not buy any bottle for use in the US that did not have a DOT number on it.

[yakitori]

I just had to point these out, even though they have been corrected. How is Europe older than America? Have some countries in Eurpose existed longer than the United States - sure they have, but the land has been here for the same time. I would argue that some of the countries in Eastern Europe exist in conditions that are only marginally better than the classic definition of third world. That being said, I don't think this bottle is a safety risk, I assume they have been hydro tested and are rated well below maximum capacity. As mentioned, as filling them in the US is questionable, I would not buy any bottle for use in the US that did not have a DOT number on it.

wth, are you kidding? the land? America is not an establishment until it is settled and named as so. It was not called america during the ice age if that is what you are trying to say. And yes, Poland has a longer history than the US, so they are not a third world country. In fact far from it. And that is what Ive said three times, maybe more. Why do you keep bringing up some other small country that is beside the point, and is probably still not third world. Since there are some countries....care to name them for me?