New air tank from Poland???

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  • yakitori

    #46
    I am relaxed now. I have just come to realize that kind of ignorance is permanent, likely because thats how thier parents raised them. I just dont take light of ppl cracking ethnic, cultural jokes, because they are not funny. I guess I will just have to live w/ thier ignorance.


    Im not mad, just trying to talk some sense into ppl. Its appearently not working.

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    • bound for glory
      retired bootboy
      • Sep 2004
      • 368

      #47
      dude, its a joke! i'm half polish. no offense meant.

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      • Lohman446
        Useful posts: 7
        • Jun 2003
        • 9315

        #48
        Originally posted by yakitori
        I am relaxed now. I have just come to realize that kind of ignorance is permanent, likely because thats how thier parents raised them. I just dont take light of ppl cracking ethnic, cultural jokes, because they are not funny. I guess I will just have to live w/ thier ignorance.
        To look at someone elses point of view and insist it is ignorant is not conducive to discussion. Ocassionaly some jokes can be shared by all. Think of Missouri the "show me state" Historical rumor is it came from a group of people from Missouri being taugth to do something and not understanding, eventually someone said "there from Missouri, your going to have to show them". True or not? I don't know, but being anal about things does not help. Lets say someone says something degrading, and means it, there is no hint of jest then there is an issue.

        But, to be nice, throwing a fit every time you see the word black/white/tan/American/Pole etc. is not going to help the problem. It makes people think of you as a fanataic and marganilizes your opinion.

        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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        • ShadowNife
          Registered User
          • Feb 2005
          • 288

          #49
          Originally posted by yakitori
          Poland is not a third world country. I dont know many of those that exist in Europe. Europe is a one of the wealthiest countries and is much older than US. I dont see any humor in insulting them. You are contributing to the prepetual ingorant american stereotype. Please dont contribute to ignorance.

          But, no, I would not buy a bottle from overseas. Why would you just to save a bit of weight. Thats a bad decision.

          1 ) If i remember correctly, the country of Poland disappeared twice in recent history, whereas the U.S. has not vanished and then come back. While i agree that it's not a third world nation, i don't think it's at the level industrially and economically to compete with the United States and Great Britain. True they may have the richest population, but I'm pretty sure the United States has more money ( the EU as a whole is now a competitor with the U.S. economically)

          2 ) Europe was smacking each other up through and past WWII. It wasn't really a unity until the European Union. The United States technically was united since 1776, cept the Civil War. So either way, the U.S. has been a "unity" for longer.

          3) We bash Europe, maybe a little too much on the French, but they do the same as everyone else stated. Mostly all in good fun

          4) My ancestors came from Taiwan <--- China <--- Africa(apparently).

          5) Don't bash the Americans for their humor when the Europeans are doing the same thing to us haha :) It's not really ignorance on a large part, but more humor. Nothing to do with parentage when your just poking fun of say Irish drinking or the Asian small manhoods. It's all in good fun. You seem more stubborn in bashing Americans and asserting European supremacy (not the best word choice i know) than the people who were mere joking around. Bigots are the people who act on these jokes because they truly believe them. They're the people who actually treat you differently based on your race. Gotta distinguish between the two heh :)

          6 ) that being said Just wanted to point out some of the mistakes in your argument; that and the fact that the thread just went through a wild tangent.. <--- weirdest smiley evar.

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          on -topic

          I realy dont think spending an extra $75 on a tank just to be a new oz lighter is worth it. Unless its shaving half pounds off tank weight, it's not worth the cost and the trouble of shipping either.

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          • drg
            Half-cocked
            • Oct 2004
            • 1112

            #50
            From the Stako tank site:


            .75 kg=1.65 lb roughly. For comparison, Luxfer tanks weigh 2.2 lbs or 1kg for a 45/68 like this. Over a half pound savings, that's not insignificant by a long shot.
            View my feedback here

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            • JoshK
              Je mange du poulet. mmmmm
              • Mar 2004
              • 2666

              #51
              If you take money alone as being a status of thirdworld or not...then both definatly are not...racist jokes can be funny, and I would definatly say some about myself if I knew some...but I dont.

              Back to the tank...it doesnt seem too appealing from what I read...even if it was available to me.

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              • astroboy
                Registered User
                • Nov 2000
                • 84

                #52
                In the words of a great poet(LOL!), "Can't we just all get along?"

                Bigotry is a disease of the human race and is not exclusive to anyone... you'll get bigots everywhere you look, some of them brazen, some of them hidden... sometimes even when you look in the mirror...
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                • ApexAZ
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 161

                  #53
                  I'm sorry, I missed the war on terror...? When did that occur?

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                  • devildog
                    I hate my user name
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 1530

                    #54
                    Originally posted by ShadowNife
                    1 ) If i remember correctly, the country of Poland disappeared twice in recent history, whereas the U.S. has not vanished and then come back. While i agree that it's not a third world nation, i don't think it's at the level industrially and economically to compete with the United States and Great Britain. True they may have the richest population, but I'm pretty sure the United States has more money ( the EU as a whole is now a competitor with the U.S. economically)
                    poland never completely dissapeared, they fought through it and stayed alive, after being backstabbed numerous times, in different wars. the reason the us hasnt dissapeared is because no war has been fought here to try and take it over. plus, the us is a few hundred years old, poland is a couple of thousand, im sure the us's time will come.

                    poland has been fighting for existance for a very very very long time, which is why polish people are some of the most loyal, patriotic people in the world.

                    and just so everyone is clear, poland is the biggest ally in the recent war on terror. all of southern iraq is and has been controlled by poland (which is in charge of the coalition) since the war kicked off.
                    Zaszczycają waszą ojczyznę

                    just got back from iraq!!!

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                    • ShadowNife
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 288

                      #55
                      hmm aite my bad bout the wrong history then =D

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                      • devildog
                        I hate my user name
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 1530

                        #56
                        its cool man, you were right in the sense that poland has been run to the ground a couple of times, but there was always at least an underground resistance that kept fighting. and soldiers always fought on other fronts, like in ww2, when germany and russia took over poland, polish refugees and disbanded units went and fought with france. when france got run through, poland went and fought with england. there are lots of misconceptions about poland, most of it being propaganda spread from the wars. ex: polish cavalry unit on patrol, surrounded by german panzer division. the polish cavalry fought its way through and got back to safe lines, so the germans spread that poland attacked their tanks with a horse mounted unit. lots of stuff like that happened.
                        Zaszczycają waszą ojczyznę

                        just got back from iraq!!!

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