LX not what AGD claims it to be???

[JRingold]

Does anyone else think that the LX just plain SUCKS? I have had 4 different mags all with LX and not once has the LX performed like AGD says it should. MIne have always chopped balls and I even had BlackVCG tune one, and it still chopped balls. I am starting to think that the LX is not what AGD claims it is. Anyone else think so too?

Wow, you're not getting much along the lines of constructive assistance here... Hmm, If you put a squeegie in the barrel, hold it and fire, does it reset like it should? Is it light on your finger if/when you do the "finger test"? The paint is fresh and not egg-shaped? I put some old eggs through my classic with the level 10 today, with a barrel that was too small, it wasn't able to push the paintball through the barrel.

[boggerman]

Lvl 10 is like a cocker... when its properly tuned, it works flawlessly, when its not, its your worst nightmare.

Quite correct, Lvl 10 can be finiky, it has a small happy zone it likes to operate in, you step outside that zone and you'll either get bolt stick (where it wont fire) or it'll be hitting the ball too hard.

From what you're saying about it hurting your finger and breaking paint, I suspect you're working with a much higher input pressure then what Black set it up for when he tuned it. I highly suggest talking with Black and replicating his tuning settings. If you're using a preset, then you need to send it back to him to tune specifically to that operating pressure.

-Evil Bob

I agree, I have been running lx in my mags since the first round of beta testing, first in my minimag with NO chops, and later in my emag (same lx kit). I must admit that it is more finiky in a faster marker, you must find the balance between speed and anti-chop. I have my emag set for speed and just deal with the occasional breakage, which is still very rare. My mini was slow enough that it never became an issue. So my advise is to have someone tune it for your exact setup, or better yet, learn to do it yourself so you can give it the occasional tweak when needed.

[shartley]

[Automaggot68]

lmao... ur an idiot for sending it to some1 to tune it in the 1st place... out of ALL the LX's i have seen (3 myself and 2 for my bro) i have never seen a LX chop a paintball... take the time to learn what ur doing and tune it RIGHT and ull love it

And you're an idiot because you have horrible grammar and english skills.

[Ole Unka Phil]

my tendency here is to say if Black worked on it twice and says its fine... it is. I would trust him to know better than almost anyone.

And your chopping problem is elsewhere. If the level 10 is resetting and your using the middle spring your problem is not with the level 10. There are all sorts of things, and only some of which, you have mentioned.

There are burs on the bolt, burs in the body, Missaligned power tubes, bad or missing detentes, feed problems and breaks down the barrel rather than chop. Not all broken balls in the barrel are chopped. A more carefull examination of your entire set up is in order to diagnose the situation. But overall it can be fixed.

[Automaggot68]

Shartley here is Correct.
When I got my frist Lvl X, I had nothing but problems. When I learned to use it properly it worked.....PROPERLY.

When I upgraded to a Halo B, then eventually a ReLoader B, I experimented with only using the lvl7 bolt, and it worked fine for me. My Loader kept up with my moderate rater of fire.

If I didn't have anything faster then a 12volt, I'd be all over Lvl X.
Good luck with your Lvl X problems

[Lohman446]

Shartley here is Correct.
When I got my frist Lvl X, I had nothing but problems. When I learned to use it properly it worked.....PROPERLY.

I don't think that is what he is saying..

Scenario A) My LX works great
AO response: yeh, great product

Scenario B) My LX chops
AO response: your on idiot and don't know how to install it etc. etc. its not AGD or LX fault.. its all yours... etc.

[Ole Unka Phil]

And you're an idiot because you have horrible grammar and english skills.

No... your the idiot because you judge people based on what they type on an internet forum.

[Duzzy]

No... your the idiot because you judge people based on what they type on an internet forum.

I think someone caught their foot in their own trap...

But I still say that more information would be wonderful to help assess the problem.

[Timmee]

Q-loader + lvl 10 bolt = kickass setup.

...

Q-Loader

QFT!

[Jeffy-CanCon]

Shartley here is Correct.
When I got my frist Lvl X, I had nothing but problems. When I learned to use it properly it worked.....PROPERLY.

When I upgraded to a Halo B, then eventually a ReLoader B, I experimented with only using the lvl7 bolt, and it worked fine for me. My Loader kept up with my moderate rater of fire.

If I didn't have anything faster then a 12volt, I'd be all over Lvl X.
Good luck with your Lvl X problems

My story is the reverse. I never chopped a ball with L7 until I started using my HALO B. When I installed (OK, my friend Andrew installed) my L10, the chopping stopped.

[Lohman446]

My story is the reverse. I never chopped a ball with L7 until I started using my HALO B. When I installed (OK, my friend Andrew installed) my L10, the chopping stopped.

I expect you found the inherent issues from force feeding and pushing past detents/cracking balls in breech. My Halo was very finicky and I ended up drilling a hole in it so I can lube the belt regularly to allow it to slip a bit easier. This solved a lot of my HALO related issues.

[Automaggot68]

No... your the idiot because you judge people based on what they type on an internet forum.

<3 :)
Always there defending the....Oh...wait.

[yakitori]

LX is not "chop proof". But thin, brittle shell paint can still cause it to chop. Ive had it happen more w/ my emag than my mech mag. My mech mag practically never chops, and I dont sweetspot it either.

Its more reliable when fine tuned.

And breakbeam eyes > LX any day of the week..year...century. Anyone that disagrees is a tard, noob, or just never have used break beams before.

LX is an upgrade that REDUCES efficiency. Eyes do not. LX also decreases cycle speed slightly. The eyes dont need batteries the gun does. So does your loader. So does an emag, xmag, or homemade emags. Eyes are more reliable than LX, if clean, and properly used. Less time is lost w/ eyes waiting for a ball, than w/ chuffing, resetting, then shooting again.

LX does what it is supposed to do most of the time, but can still chop....more frequently w electric mags.

For what its worth LX is better than L7. It GREATLY reduces chopping.

[Blazestorm]

No... your the idiot because you judge people based on what they type on an internet forum.

You're an idiot for calling someone an idiot for juding people based on what they type on an internet forum.

that's right. I went there.