LX not what AGD claims it to be???

[Lohman446]

You're an idiot for calling someone an idiot for juding people based on what they type on an internet forum.

that's right. I went there.

Couldn't resist

And your an idiot for calling someone an idiot, for calling someone an idiot, for judging people based on what they type on an internet forum

We could go on a long time like this

[athomas]

I have two guns, a retro mag and an emag, with original level 10 beta test bolts that I have shot probably 60 cases of paint through. I have probably chopped a total of 3 balls in all that time. I gave up carrying a squeegie. The balls that I did chop were found to be of questionable quality. I just got an Angel with eyes. I have only used it once and have already chopped a ball, even with the breakbeam eyes.

I agree that I like eyes as it does make the gun cycle at its fullest potential.

I like the level 10 because I never have to worry about a chop ever. It was very easy to setup too. Too many people try to overtweak their setup and it causes problems.

[Flow_Tech]

What's LX?

I use break-beam...

word.

[Automaggot68]

Couldn't resist

And your an idiot for calling someone an idiot, for calling someone an idiot, for judging people based on what they type on an internet forum

We could go on a long time like this

<3

It was too bad, for me to call someone an idiot, because that person called someone ELSE an idiot, because the original poster Sent his marker off to be tuned.

I didn't judge anyone. You're ALL idiots.

[Automaggot68]

Back on topic, Do you think people rely on Lvl too much?
One of those things where regardless of it's use, worth, or how well it works (or doesn't) It'll always be defended?

[NoForts4Me]

Back on topic, Do you think people rely on Lvl too much?
One of those things where regardless of it's use, worth, or how well it works (or doesn't) It'll always be defended?

I'm not sure what you mean by people relying on it too much, but those who get it to work are going to love it and defend it, and those who don't are going to hate it and bash it. It's the same with any product.

And comparing lvl 10 to eyes is pointless IF you are talking about an all mech marker...you can't put eyes on a mech, so the lvl 10, or JAM bolt, or whatever is the best you will get for these systems. Now with an electro, that's a different argument, but I've never owned an electronic marker, so I can't go there.

[Lohman446]

Back on topic, Do you think people rely on Lvl too much?
One of those things where regardless of it's use, worth, or how well it works (or doesn't) It'll always be defended?

Ohh... watch this. I think that LX is one of the most over hyped products in paintball today (top ten type). So.. where did I put that flame resistance suit....

My opinion. Does it work? Sometimes. Can anything work like the LX rumor that circulates with part of AO with 100% perfection? No....

[kramer]

Ohh... watch this. I think that LX is one of the most over hyped products in paintball today (top ten type). So.. where did I put that flame resistance suit....

My opinion. Does it work? Sometimes. Can anything work like the LX rumor that circulates with part of AO with 100% perfection? No....

excellent point - I gave up on AGD since its such a pain to get the lvl 10 'dialed' - love that all AGD cultists just blindly assert that lvl 10 is awesome, and blame any disfunction on 'user error'.

lvl 10 is a pain, and very overhyped.


Ill take eyes any day.

[TheTramp]

excellent point - I gave up on AGD since its such a pain to get the lvl 10 'dialed' - love that all AGD cultists just blindly assert that lvl 10 is awesome, and blame any disfunction on 'user error'.

lvl 10 is a pain, and very overhyped.


Ill take eyes any day.

I don't understand why so many people compair the L10 to eyes. It was designed with mechanical guns in mind.

I agree that given the choise between eyes and the L10 (some version of it) in My Timmy or even my E-Mag I'd go for BB eyes but that's not an option for the many thousands of mechanical Mags out there that frequently chopped.

I put one of the Beta L10's into my old Retro Mag and it worked so well with NO "tuning" other than having to change the carrier once after the o-ring wore in that I simply swaped out the valves when I got my Emag.

You show me any other $75 product that will stop most chops in a mechanical gun at high ROF with a 12V Revy and I guess I'll say the L10 is "very overhyped." Even the JAM bolt isn't as effective.

[Lohman446]

I guess we need to define hype

Some people act like LX is the greatest thing to ever happen to paintball... that to me is hype.

[Spacemanvic]

Like the ION? Hype?

[Lohman446]

Like the ION? Hype?

Theres a lot of hype around the Ion too.. theres a lot of hype around LX

Is some of what is said about them both true? Sure there are pros to both of them. Is it all true? Not a chance.

[TheTramp]

I guess we need to define hype

Some people act like LX is the greatest thing to ever happen to paintball... that to me is hype.

Well, it sure seemed like it was the greatest thing that ever happened to the Automag line.

[Lohman446]

Well, it sure seemed like it was the greatest thing that ever happened to the Automag line.

I disagree... I never had one of those mythical chop nothing LX setups either... and trying to get it just caused me headaches. But, perhaps if I had had a "great" one I would feel the same you did.

[paullus99]

Compared to the issues some people had with the Lvl7 - and the Mag didn't get the rep as a blender for nothing.....the Level10 was the best thing to happen to Mech Mags. True, there can be some issues with setup & not every bolt is going to be 100% (although as much as we would like them to be).

I can only go by my personal experience - not a single chop in a year & broken paintballs that I can count on one hand....now that's an improvment I can stand behind.