AGD dissapears

[Robbie]

its funny you are starting to see some of the hard core tippmann people switching over to the tac one because the quality has been sucked out of there line of guns. I am NOT FLaming the tippman people this just an observation.
The software is already written for the e/x mag 4.2 exists but will not be released because good conscience. It takes strong character to hold a set of beliefs and not stray because of peer pressure and the allure of fast money.
other companies are now stripping off every bit of quality they put into there guns to increase profit margins. I would rather see AGD do a slow sell off of product than sell out quality.

[Number13]

Thank you, Shartley--for both posts.

[Lee]

Its also the mindset of a lot of us who have used things that are "just as good as eyes" even if we are not "advanced" players. Level ten, sensei, cops... frankly no they are not as good as eyes. Im going to get flamed for that one, but it is my honest beleif after having used LX and eyes. I'll take eyes any day.

i respectfully disagree. i prefer level 10 over eyes myself. i've had far less (read zero) chops w/ all L10's ive used than all the electro break beams i've used.

[Magglerock]

Thank you, Shartley--for both posts.

Yup - Shartley has known what was up for a long time.

[desslock]

I prefer lvl10 over eyes and I love my emag, but if you look at the marketing side of what is happening in paintball AGD is going to drown....Im not a marketing expert so the following are opinions and observations only!

SP and Diablo are now making entry level guns $200ish with eyes and higher rof....there is the tourney market

Saw an ad for new camo 98 tippmans plus Ben Tippman has released his own line of markers. There is the scenerio market.

The last "new" thing from AGD was the tac one body (correct me if Im wrong).

All the upgrades I have done with my mag have been Tuna products and it seems like the only people still making "new" products are 3rd party companies like tuna,logic, devilmag etc.

To stay in the market I would think AGD would have to release new products that appeal to the tourny and scenerio folks at fair prices. Unfortunately it doesnt seem like this is going to happen any time soon.

[WARPED1]

Its also the mindset of a lot of us who have used things that are "just as good as eyes" even if we are not "advanced" players. Level ten, sensei, cops... frankly no they are not as good as eyes. Im going to get flamed for that one, but it is my honest beleif after having used LX and eyes. I'll take eyes any day.

I agree with ya. NOTHING tops eyes.

[gc82000]

I dont care what you use eyes, cops, LX, active or passive systems or a combo of the two. But I want speed and accuacy. We all know AGD quality and customer service is second to none. So that area is null and does not need to be mentioned.

But most of us can barely shoot, mainly walk a mag at speeds in excess of 9 bps. In rec and scenario that limitation is fine, where first-shot accuracy is more important then all else. But in speedball and tourney ball speed is a much greater priority. I was excited when the anouncement of the Hair trigger was made but we all know what happened there. but when the next great developement is produced I will be there.

[WARPED1]

I will be there.

But AGD won't.........................

[Lord_Whoopass]

I love my LX on my mech mags, but when you have something that shoots fast like a devilmag, you will notice that eyes are much better... WHY? because you can shoot faster because of the fact that you wont be "Chuffing" and missing shots, the eyes just delay it...