Omen Help...

[rkjunior303]

maybe, but my SP gun blows your Evil away. and >20k others in the past 2 1/2 months months its been out would agree with me

It's just all about hype, buddy. I bet if you put the two guns next to each other on LEGAL settings, the Omen would perform better. The Omen is MUCH faster with the 1.5/PDP Boards.. I would regularly outshoot my z-boarded egg. I never tried a halo on it, since I sold it before I bought one with the Viking.

[tyrion2323]

proof? ive played with both. thats all i need. and dont bring spyders and tippmans into this becasue yes, years ago they were the greatest thing to paintball, besides mags of course.

You make the claim that your gun "blows his gun away".
Where's your proof? Playing with both guns isn't proof. It's the basis of your OPINION. I've used both as well. Here's my reasoning for choosing the Omen: Higher quality materials used; higher quality customer service; free upgrades; similar price; lifetime guarantee; universal threading (cocker); high quality anodizing job; etc.

You infer that because 20,000 people have Ions, they must be better.
There are more spyders and tippmanns than ions, shockers, nerves and impulses combined. In no way are Spyders and Tippmanns "the best out there." Numbers are abitrary when it comes to performance. More people have Civics than Ferraris, but I wouldn't take a Civic's performance first.

In fact, you don't refute any of my statements at all...

[Spartan X]

It's come to a Pissing match has it?

Just you remember that the Omen comes with a WAY better Regulator, Has prolly 50% better efficiancy. Has a better Anti-chop mechanism (eyes are great and all, but the CAM has proven it's self perfect for reliability in anti-chop) The Omen comes with a LIFETIME WARRENTY. If you ever need parts, just call evil and ask for the parts you need and they send them to you free of any charges. Can't fix the gun your self? Send tyhe gun to evil and only pay shipping to them and have the rgun sent back to you with any thing replaced that needed to be plus totally ripping. Oh and upgrades are starting to come out for the Omen now to. Since it's been out for just over 2 years now things have started to pick up. The Ion started out fast because of all the hype it got from the shocker and there advertising compain. Evil was still relivily new and was only well known for there awsome paint.



Oh and do not touch that maximun velocity screw near the cocking rod unless a evil tech support agent tells you to, it's a VERY sensitive adjustment and can make alot of things go wrong with the ballence of the set up if done wrong.

[Southparkrocks]

Get the ion, yes what everything Tyrion said was true but just because a company uses higher quality materials and higher tolerences doesn't really effect how it shoots. Anyways if you treat your omen or ion well it's not gonna break on you. If you plan on getting a higher end gun later on, definately get the Ion, if you get the Omen it's gonna be really hard to trade up.

[Lohman446]

It's come to a Pissing match has it?

Just you remember that the Omen comes with a WAY better Regulator,

No.. I don't consider anything that takes "a few cases" to break in to be WAY better. Though I will give you that the SP regs on the Ions have been hit and miss, some of them have been VERY good, others have been... not so good.

Has prolly 50% better efficiancy.

What does SP claim out of a 68/45 - like 1200 to 1400 shots, I doubt the Omen is getting spectacularly better, doubt 1800. And remember, a $15 QEV and you get about 1600 out of the Ion

Has a better Anti-chop mechanism (eyes are great and all, but the CAM has proven it's self perfect for reliability in anti-chop)

Proven? If anything I would say the cam feed system is unproven when compared to break beam eyes. As to effectiveness, can't comment, never tried it.

The Omen comes with a LIFETIME WARRENTY. If you ever need parts, just call evil and ask for the parts you need and they send them to you free of any charges. Can't fix the gun your self? Send tyhe gun to evil and only pay shipping to them and have the rgun sent back to you with any thing replaced that needed to be plus totally ripping.

No doubt Evils CS spanks SPs. And chances are your Omen has less quality control issues than anything SP makes.

Oh and upgrades are starting to come out for the Omen now to. Since it's been out for just over 2 years now things have started to pick up. The Ion started out fast because of all the hype it got from the shocker and there advertising compain. Evil was still relivily new and was only well known for there awsome paint.

I think that SP already has in roads with aftermarket companies, and that you will see far more upgrades for the Ion, though it may just be because there are far moer Ions out there


That being said, the Omen likely does use more durable materials, if this will have any effect on performance is hard to tell. I myself am wary of the adjustment methods on an Omen, but only having read them cannot tell you if they are as complicated as they sound. There both decent guns, in my opinion worth far more perfromance wise than there prices would indicate. That being said, what was this thread about again?

[Spartan X]

No.. I don't consider anything that takes "a few cases" to break in to be WAY better. Though I will give you that the SP regs on the Ions have been hit and miss, some of them have been VERY good, others have been... not so good.

-The Det reg takes 5-6,000 shots to fully break in. Using your logic the Sidewinder and 2-liter SUCK because they take 10,000+ to brake in and those are the best regs on the market (actually Det reg beat the Sidewinder in Have Blues test's)


What does SP claim out of a 68/45 - like 1200 to 1400 shots, I doubt the Omen is getting spectacularly better, doubt 1800. And remember, a $15 QEV and you get about 1600 out of the Ion

-Umm I was not aware that it was able to get that much...Yah the Omen gets 1800 from a 68/4500


Proven? If anything I would say the cam feed system is unproven when compared to break beam eyes. As to effectiveness, can't comment, never tried it.

I had a long description on this a while back, the basic Idea of it was the break beam eyes work awsomne, they just mess up and have 1 or 2 TINY flaws, other then thats there awsome. I liked evils out of the bopx thinking, and it worked oput to be a perfect anti-chop mech.


No doubt Evils CS spanks SPs. And chances are your Omen has less quality control issues than anything SP makes.

Yep



I think that SP already has in roads with aftermarket companies, and that you will see far more upgrades for the Ion, though it may just be because there are far moer Ions out there

agreed, I just commented that Evil at the MOMENT has more ups for there gun since it's been out longer...but that will change....not that the Omen needs many performace ups any way.


That being said, the Omen likely does use more durable materials, if this will have any effect on performance is hard to tell. I myself am wary of the adjustment methods on an Omen, but only having read them cannot tell you if they are as complicated as they sound. There both decent guns, in my opinion worth far more perfromance wise than there prices would indicate. That being said, what was this thread about again?

-Yep

[JimmyBeam]

It's come to a Pissing match has it?

Just you remember that the Omen comes with a WAY better Regulator, Has prolly 50% better efficiancy. Has a better Anti-chop mechanism (eyes are great and all, but the CAM has proven it's self perfect for reliability in anti-chop) The Omen comes with a LIFETIME WARRENTY. If you ever need parts, just call evil and ask for the parts you need and they send them to you free of any charges. Can't fix the gun your self? S

actually i took the reg off the omen and put it on my Ion, so yea you're are right. Better Effeciancy? no it doesnt. Do the beak beam eyes work? well.....17 cases, no chops.

yea the warrant from Evil is nice...but Ions are about 1/4 the hassle to keep up. and if you own a marker and havent learned how to fix it yourself.....well i dont know what to tell you. I have both...right here in front of me. does the Omen get used......ever? no. my SP marker hasnt failed me.....yet.


and sure it might, and im not saying its the final marker you will ever have to buy. but it serves its purpose, and it serves it well. and for a base price of 284??? i mean come on, why the heck not?