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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #1

    "Recreational tournament player"

    "I play tournaments" It seems to be a statement that paintballers make to each other, to prove how "good" they are. The fact of the matter is though, it seems that very few people who play tournaments are that great, and even if they are are they tournament players like we want to think of them as?

    There is a difference to me between teams like Russian Legion, Dynasty, Strange, and most tournament teams. These are long term teams dedicated to practice. Now granted most of us can't practice a schedule like theres, but around here I see very few teams that get together and run drills, run practices, and run organized sessions. Most of the times its scrimagging against other teams if they practice at all together. When tournaments roll around there is a large pool of players willing to play, some "friends" stick together in groups of two or three, and some patterns emerge but its basically thrown together teams out of these pools of people who practice together. This large pool of players seems to encompass players of nearly every level. I play with one person, who generally ends up captaining a team, and we even carry the same team name tournament to tournament, but I do not define our team as a tournament team - we are a bunch of guys, thrown together, who play tournaments not to win but to have fun. We are not serious about teams there is no "voting on or off" there is little team sponsorship, instead deferred to individual players in the large pool.

    To me, the term recreational player and tournament player are in no way mutually exclusive. I have seen some VERY good teams put together that are more of a throw together "recreational" style team. They play tournaments, but they are not a "tournament team". I'm hoping that what I am trying to say is clear, I realize a lot of it seems contradictory. Thoughts?
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
  • TheTramp
    Registered User
    • Jan 2001
    • 4019

    #2
    I'd say that the majority of "tournament teams" are "Recreational" tournament teams. At least on the local circuit (P&L) and the lower levels of the NEPL here in Massachusetts.
    "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
    -Charlie Papazian

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    • trains are bad
      Registered User
      • Oct 2003
      • 1751

      #3
      I think the main issue is money. There is nothing that stops our 3-4 friend 'team' from practicing every weekend...except money. We are all of the age where college, rent, bills, and cars come first. And none of us want to waste everything that's left on a few hours of practice. We are definately in the wrong sport, money wise. Why can't everything fun be as cheap as skateboarding?
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      • Lohman446
        Useful posts: 7
        • Jun 2003
        • 9315

        #4
        Where as I, if I had to practice every day, or every other day to play on my level, would find another hobby... I would burn out quickly and do something else..
        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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        • ojhspyro89
          The bushy man!
          • May 2004
          • 1078

          #5
          I love playing paintball, i hate paying for it. Thats the worst part bout paintball is paying for the stuff. It sucks real bad soemtimes but its all good.
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          • Jackel411
            East Coast Anarchy...WHAT!
            • Jan 2003
            • 882

            #6
            Rec Tourney player.... AKA Poser sorry... you get no " props " from me or any of my guys for doing local games.. No matter what you are..

            My team and I ( ECA ) are keying up to be a PSP team for next season and yeah we are entering one local tourney more or less for laughs.. but also to try and run away with some new kit..

            Just remember folks... You can only get better playing people better than you... Not beating on newbie mooks
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            • ApexAZ
              Registered User
              • Feb 2005
              • 161

              #7
              Originally posted by Jackel411
              Rec Tourney player.... AKA Poser sorry... you get no " props " from me or any of my guys for doing local games.. No matter what you are..

              My team and I ( ECA ) are keying up to be a PSP team for next season and yeah we are entering one local tourney more or less for laughs.. but also to try and run away with some new kit..

              Just remember folks... You can only get better playing people better than you... Not beating on newbie mooks
              That's a great attitude.

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              • TheTramp
                Registered User
                • Jan 2001
                • 4019

                #8
                Originally posted by Jackel411
                My team and I ( ECA ) are keying up to be a PSP team for next season and yeah we are entering one local tourney more or less for laughs.. but also to try and run away with some new kit..

                Just remember folks... You can only get better playing people better than you... Not beating on newbie mooks
                But you're going to go ahead and do it anyway? Super.
                "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
                -Charlie Papazian

                Feedback: http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=40134

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                • bound for glory
                  retired bootboy
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 368

                  #9
                  don't you just love these wannabes? in one breath he says you can only get better by playing better teams. then he sez lets play in a tourny thats beneath ue paintball today gotta love it.

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                  • Crazy
                    Denver Altitude
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 1148

                    #10
                    I play national events(PSP & NPPL) but that doesn't stop me from playing local events for the prizes.
                    "I thought it through and my worst brings out the best in you." - Taking Back Sunday
                    "Cheating gets it faster." - Jimmy Eat World.

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                    • dave p
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 184

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jackel411
                      Rec Tourney player.... AKA Poser sorry... you get no " props " from me or any of my guys for doing local games.. No matter what you are..

                      My team and I ( ECA ) are keying up to be a PSP team for next season and yeah we are entering one local tourney more or less for laughs.. but also to try and run away with some new kit..

                      Just remember folks... You can only get better playing people better than you... Not beating on newbie mooks
                      you sound like a wannabe to me, 'keying up to' implies you havent yet. so who are you?
                      what a tool.

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                      • Lohman446
                        Useful posts: 7
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9315

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jackel411
                        Rec Tourney player.... AKA Poser sorry... you get no " props " from me or any of my guys for doing local games.. No matter what you are..

                        My team and I ( ECA ) are keying up to be a PSP team for next season and yeah we are entering one local tourney more or less for laughs.. but also to try and run away with some new kit..

                        Just remember folks... You can only get better playing people better than you... Not beating on newbie mooks

                        Someday.. my team and I, were going to beat Dynasty, so we demand respect now...

                        One of the players I would classify as a "recreational tournament" player has a world cup ring in his shop, that he earned. Come back and tell me about being a "poser" when you have one. Thank you, come again

                        As for looking for your "props" and your respect... keep them, I really don't need paintball to tell me who I am.
                        Last edited by Lohman446; 05-20-2005, 06:59 PM.
                        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                        • Destructo6
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 549

                          #13
                          Until they make enough money to do nothing but play paintball, they're all recreational.
                          God gave you a soul.
                          Your parents, a body.
                          Your country, a rifle.

                          Keep all of them clean.

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                          • Crazy
                            Denver Altitude
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 1148

                            #14
                            Russian Legion?
                            "I thought it through and my worst brings out the best in you." - Taking Back Sunday
                            "Cheating gets it faster." - Jimmy Eat World.

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                            Boostie Bomb

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                            • Chronobreak
                              Rec Poster
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 5055

                              #15
                              i agree completely, however if things onctinue this way lohman might have to raise his usefull post count


                              things are the same around here, the teams that play ocasionaly tounreys/young guns scrimage on a weekly/semi weekly basis at most.

                              thers also alot of people that just wander to the speedball and join a team for fun.

                              paintball should be fun and it is always that way it seems until somone ramps or shoots hot/real close/fast

                              i can say those are the only times if any i see any problems on the field(althoguh that wasnt the question you asked)

                              well in sammary i find it the best when a group of people get together to play rec/tounrey is the best, where peopel help eachother and have fun anda rent overshooting etc.(me def of overshooting may vary than others. im talking like 5+ balls and or 3+ at really close range..)

                              i get alot of the "are you ona team" from newbs and beinning rec players it seems the most. the regualrs dont really seem to care, if you can play you can play.

                              you dont ahve to play tourneys and practice all the time to be a tourney palyer however if you playa few ..well good however it doesnt make you better than anyone generally speaking...

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