Creed of the Good Paintballer

**Jaan** · 06-02-2005, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by peewee

The age old question comes to mind if everyone else is jumping off a cliff do you follow??

You bring up an interesting point. I've actually done that. Everyone else jumped off the cliff into the water at the local quarry and survived, so I followed them, and I survived lol

You've also reminded me of a quote I read recently in Wired magazine:

"There's upholding the principle. And there's being the only knucklehead left who's upholding the principle."

Bram Cohen - Creator: Bit Torrent

**yakitori** · 06-02-2005, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by mercury

I guess I am also "old school" because I play with integrity. I absolutely refuse to wipe even if the other team does. Victory is much sweeter when you know you overcome someone on the other side cheating. If they do win, I don't bonus ball them, I simply shake hands and tell them, "Good game." Maybe that's not the cool thing to do but I do it anyways. I play without cheating (knowingly) and guess what, I still have fun. I've had my fair share of wins and losses against honorable people and cheaters alike. It's a shame to see that many find it necessary to cheat so they can keep up with the rest. It is possible to beat a cheater without cheating yourself and it may just make you a little bit better. I am not blind, though, as I do see cheating running rampant throughout the sport. It's just a shame that it's getting so bad. I even see it in rec ball where there is no real "need" to wipe because you'll be playing in another 5-10 minutes anyways if you get shot out. In any case, I deal with cheaters by simply trying a little bit harder the next time. That's all I can do because cheating is just wrong, no matter how you try to justify it. There simply is no way you can convince me that cheating is right. To any that think otherwise, perhaps your parents failed at teaching you the difference between right and wrong. I am by no means perfect, but I can tell right from wrong and do my best to stay on the right path.

As far as what you wear or what you shoot, I pay no mind to it or how you talk. It's how you act and play on that field as well as how you react afterwards, win or lose. I give everyone a chance despite their "image."

Lastly, for Teufelhunden...you have that name so I assume you have some connection to the Marine Corps (correct me if I'm wrong.) I would hope that you would try to uphold the idea of integrity.

Oldschool was not referred to as "not cheating" New school was not referred to as "cheating" that was something that the dood took out of context. That was his only smart arse remark.

New school was referred to w/ the colors of guns, clothing, paintball terms, ramping board (where allowed), and other things. Like I said. It was taken out of context once again, by a fanboy. They sure know how to twist words.

newschool players have integrity too. I dont consider myself oldschool cause to me oldschool is woodsballing w/ slow guns. And Ive even made the point that ppl cheated back then too.

**MadPSIence** · 06-02-2005, 01:04 PM

with the attitude of Tuef and Yak in this thread.. and the overall morale or pro-ball and even amateur that I can see even from being on PBN

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Tell me just how I took anything out of context. You kids are a glowing example.. an absolute epitomy of how cheating IS new school. You both defend it and treat it just like ramping. Just because it exists and is widely practiced.. it's suddenly acceptable and something we need to do to adapt and win? So ramping becomes acceptable.. which I can't call cheating because you know.. it is in the rules. But when you embrace something wholly illegal and detrimental to the sport as if it was as necessary to accept as a controversial rule?

Back up

**hitech** · 06-02-2005, 01:16 PM