which devil mag option

[KRAKMT]

No, I didn't. I had a kid ask for one, but before we could set the deal up he changed his mind . . . . . . three times. I ended up just telling him to take a hike, because I could see the hand writing on the wall. It was going to end badly, for both of us.

That's the sort of mind I'm getting towards most Mag products now too. Its far too much trouble for the minimal return I get. All the BS from AO, and the horrible luck (which seems only to attack Mag products for some reason ) has forced me to look elsewhere for customers.

[WARPED1]

I'm curious to see how TAG's drop in Emag board with eye logic is going to drive the Devilmag off the face of the earth or not, we'll see.

[KRAKMT]

Don't think it will make that much difference. I would be curious to see GADevils numbers but I suspect the draw was for the new frame and eyes. People want a verticle egrip that is better than the hyper. The emag still will need eye drilling and hopefully the devilmag gripframe will feel better.

I'm curious to see how TAG's drop in Emag board with eye logic is going to drive the Devilmag off the face of the earth or not, we'll see.

[CoolHand]

Make some Ion stuff too! There's 3 bodies out(besides the plastic ones.)
Team Strange body(coming soon)= $149
FBM Kage= $110
Deadlywind Foehn= $99
Coolhands_______= $??

Yeah, you know I am looking real serious like at doing an ION frame/trigger combo that will help with the 'Meh' type trigger feel that the ION is plagued with.

But, we won't be doing it if I can't hit a certain $$$ mark. Just gots to see what I can come up with.

As always, stay tuned.

[nt2004]

Just for the record, i never begged for an electro frame to come out at all. I went to his website about 6-7 motnhs after he started this service and ordered a bolt of frame. I never begged for custom frames, I just went with what he said was available.

And, just to be clear, I doubt very seriously that things went down exactly as NTwhatever said they did.

I'll make this real clear. Heres what happened with no embellishment.
1. I ordered a bolt on, unanno'd frame
2. Waited 3 months
3. After much frustration, I sent one email requesting a refund
4. He said no, simple as that.
5. I sent another email trying to reason with him/ask why
6. He never responded.
7. Sent him a PM to see if he ever received my email
8. Never responded
9. By now my dad thinks I got scammed, I can't convince him otherwise so he sends an email asking why I cant get the refund
10. GA Devil sends me a pm saying I'll get the frame as promised but he'll give no refund.
11. I tell him I rather not receive it, and ask if I can just sell my place in line.
12. Never responds
13. My dad still thinks I got scammed, emails him once again.
14. Never responds

Now i just gave up and bought a proto. I doubt he will ever send me a frame and if he does, I bet it wont be for a long long time. So here you go, thats EXACTLY what happened. Go ahead and judge it on that

[WARPED1]

Just for the record, i never begged for an electro frame to come out at all. I went to his website about 6-7 motnhs after he started this service and ordered a bolt of frame. I never begged for custom frames, I just went with what he said was available.

I'll make this real clear. Heres what happened with no embellishment.
1. I ordered a bolt on, unanno'd frame
2. Waited 3 months
3. After much frustration, I sent one email requesting a refund
4. He said no, simple as that.
5. I sent another email trying to reason with him/ask why
6. He never responded.
7. Sent him a PM to see if he ever received my email
8. Never responded
9. By now my dad thinks I got scammed, I can't convince him otherwise so he sends an email asking why I cant get the refund
10. GA Devil sends me a pm saying I'll get the frame as promised but he'll give no refund.
11. I tell him I rather not receive it, and ask if I can just sell my place in line.
12. Never responds
13. My dad still thinks I got scammed, emails him once again.
14. Never responds

Now i just gave up and bought a proto. I doubt he will ever send me a frame and if he does, I bet it wont be for a long long time. So here you go, thats EXACTLY what happened. Go ahead and judge it on that

No offense to Chris/GADevil, but I hope he never sells another item ever. That just sucks.

[smilestyler]

I'm afraid that I have a hard time feeling sorry for you guys. I've been in your shoes, and waiting truly sucks. But on the other hand, as said before again and again, custom stuff takes time. Try ordering a Tunamag. It's no different! And those are from all premade parts.
If you can't weather the wait because you don't have other guns, or you can't afford to have money tied up in these things, don't order them. It was very obvious to me when GADevil started making these, that they were going to come with a long wait. I looked into buying one myself, so I know that he didn't misrepresent that fact. I would suggest that now that you have ordered them, buckle down and wait it out. If you really don't want these thing, you will undoubtedly be able to sell them for more than you paid anyhow.

[nt2004]

I'm afraid that I have a hard time feeling sorry for you guys. I've been in your shoes, and waiting truly sucks. But on the other hand, as said before again and again, custom stuff takes time. Try ordering a Tunamag. It's no different! And those are from all premade parts.
If you can't weather the wait because you don't have other guns, or you can't afford to have money tied up in these things, don't order them. It was very obvious to me when GADevil started making these, that they were going to come with a long wait. I looked into buying one myself, so I know that he didn't misrepresent that fact. I would suggest that now that you have ordered them, buckle down and wait it out. If you really don't want these thing, you will undoubtedly be able to sell them for more than you paid anyhow.

Its not just the wait, its the uncertainty of if you'll ever receive it. He has so many process out of his control that it makes you wonder if he is even going to be able to build the frames

[SCpoloRicker]

/waiting too

[smilestyler]

Its not just the wait, its the uncertainty of if you'll ever receive it. He has so many process out of his control that it makes you wonder if he is even going to be able to build the frames

He's not going to screw you over. It may seem hard to believe cause you've got nothing to show for the money you spent.
Look at it this way, if he's got 25 frames on the go right now, do you think he's going to be able to screw over 24 other people? Not likely. It wouldn't take long to lynch the guy.
Just gotta be patient, it will all be worth it in the end. He will get 'em done.

[mandatory]

I'm on the list also and supposed to be in the first batch. I never heard anything from Chris that boards were on backorder, only people posting here on AO have said this so I have no idea if its true at all. So all we see are these rumors that people post on the forums. Last email I recieved was that the frames in the first batch were back from ano and were being cleaned up, which was about a week and a half ago.[/QUOTE]

FIRST OFF.
as for.the the "rumor" about the preditor boards being on back order, I recieved an email from chris on may 13th and it went like this.....

"From: "Chris Brooks" View Contact Details View Contact Details
To: "'kendal hanel'"
Subject: RE: question..
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:18:10 -0400

If more the boards come in time yes it will be done. I was told
yesterday it
would be roughly 3 weeks for boards to get in.

Chris Brooks
(Owner)
Devil's Den Paintball

https://www.devilsden.tv

-----Original Message-----
From: kendal hanel [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:15 PM
To: Chris Brooks
Subject: question..

I have a 5 man tourny comming up on 6/11/05. Any
chance that my gun will be here by then?? I need an
answer because this is a more expencive tournament
than im use to ($200 per player) and I dont want to
pay all that money if im not going to be shooting my
devilmag. I know you cant give us solid answers but in
this situation, unfortunatly, your the deciding factor
in wether I play in this tourny or not. thanks for
your time.

kendal hanel

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notice the e-mail I had sent him on the 12th .....??? I try to let him know my exact situation in each e-mail i send him and all i have gotten was vagueness and straight out lies.




SECOND:
Im happy to report that im going on vacation for a week to the east coast for a skim contest, so i will be able to forget this whole ordeal for a while. Depending on how i do in the contest, I may try to comendeer a ride to GAs shop to talk to him in person...see what its like at the shop. hopefully he will be more truthful in person.



LASTLY:
I just want chris, as well as all of yall, to know that I will wait how ever long it takes. I really want this marker. Its will be my first real electro, so im still excited to get it. the wait, although highly under estimated, isnt the bad part. Just be straight forward and truthful with me and i will be happy.

[mandatory]

woooo here's my all time favorite one. he had me hangin on this one.....

From: "Chris Brooks" View Contact Details View Contact Details
To: "'kendal hanel'"
Subject: RE: update?
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:27:45 -0400

Got 2 on my table now and 4 getting ready to ship. Yours is 3 down on
the
shelf of guns in linie to do. Hoping to have it next week.

Chris Brooks
(Owner)
Devil's Den Paintball

https://www.devilsden.tv

-----Original Message-----
From: kendal hanel [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:20 PM
To: Chris Brooks
Subject: RE: update?

how bouts an end of the week report? going down to the
field in mexico to check it out and talk to the
operators there to talk about an AO trip. still gotta
shoot that impulse. fixed it myself though. turned out
to be a leaking noid' gasket, i think. eager to hit
15+ bps though. im only gettin 10-11 out of the impy.
keep up the awsome work. All the guns on the webpage
look great.


kendal

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[DaveSM]

CoolHand understand pretty well the situation.

I decided to order a DevilMag. I considered that it was a CUSTOM built marker. I read doc's forum everyday so I know what hapenned with him. Customers that weren't abe to wait for their products were getting him down. I ordered my DevilMag knowing it would take a long time to have it. At the moment I have my phantom and my RT ULE mag so I'm not in a hurry to receive this marker. You should have considered the custom part of these markers before ordering them. This year at school I had a machining project. It took us 15 weeks, 12 hours a week to produce a mag body and the jig needed. Each body was on the milling and lathe machine for 3 hours each and we made 4 of these. This is custom job and Chris products are cutsom job also. I ordered a DevilMag beacause I want something different from everyone else. I don't want a timmy of the week or a DM#, I want a really custom mag and Chris offer us this option. Before ordering them I had the idea sleeing and refining for a few months so I know what I want and I know that I will be happy with my DevilMag when I'll get it. I also told Chris on my first e-mail that I would not ask him for a dealline.

[warbeak2099]

last i was reading it was late august/september and possibly in november. where did you get february from? and if i was meaning in 2250, i would have said it, otherwise it generally means the coming up august.

you know you could do alot with $900 as well...

RRFireblade posted on pbnation that the upgrade for mags would come out most likely in January or February of 06.

[Rudz]

all i can say is every 1 knew that devil mags were backed up from waiting, so if u ordered one every 1 knew u were waiting for a while