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  • deadbox101
    Registered User
    • Sep 2004
    • 213

    #16
    Originally posted by slade
    are you sure about that? i mean i know who you are and arent attempting to attack your credibility, but a lot of noids can cycle at least 50 times per second.

    but then again, theres the ion which can only cycle 17...




    im glad i have AO though, about a year ago i was talking with a ref at the field and asked him what dm4s are mechanically capped at... he said 100.
    i thought the ion just had a capped board at 17? im pretty sure it can go higher than 17.

    edit- plus i thought the solenoid in the emag was what stopped it from going over 24?

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    • Automaggot68

      #17
      Originally posted by deadbox101
      i thought the ion just had a capped board at 17? im pretty sure it can go higher than 17.

      edit- plus i thought the solenoid in the emag was what stopped it from going over 24?
      Capped at 15 I thought because of those tourney rules and the like.

      And Yes regarding the Mag noid, thats why I remember people sayin.

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      • RRfireblade

        • Jun 2002
        • 5103

        #18
        Originally posted by slade
        are you sure about that? i mean i know who you are and arent attempting to attack your credibility, but a lot of noids can cycle at least 50 times per second.

        but then again, theres the ion which can only cycle 17...




        im glad i have AO though, about a year ago i was talking with a ref at the field and asked him what dm4s are mechanically capped at... he said 100.
        There are definately soleniods that cycle faster than that but that's not the one used in most Matrixs.

        Most paintball markers on the market today use a soleniod that's rated for 22-24cps.Depending the exact model, some can be pushed a little bit beyond that but there are other circumstances that effect how far they can be over driven in a given markers electronics package.
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        • Steelrat
          I meant to...uh, nevermind
          • May 2003
          • 5375

          #19
          Originally posted by Flow_Tech
          i KNOW my matrix shot atleast 25.it was done over a PACT timer with a freeflow board,anderson to be exact.

          EDIT-whoever said mags,karnivores,and ______ were the fastest or whatever,definitly not true.my friends karnivore cant shoot anything over 22 without SERIOUS drop off,yet i can put my alias on uncapped ramping and just about outshoot a V35 HALO with minor drop off from a AKA 2 litre reg and AKA SCM3.
          I had my viking at 31 bps (runaway bounce). From looking at the video of it, I can't see any noticeable dropoff.


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          • magman007
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            • Jun 2001
            • 7579

            #20
            the e-mag noid needs an amazingly large dwell time to opperate soundly every time. its something like 30ms



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            • Flow_Tech
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              • Jun 2003
              • 1571

              #21
              Originally posted by Steelrat
              I had my viking at 31 bps (runaway bounce). From looking at the video of it, I can't see any noticeable dropoff.
              no doubt,i know vikings rock.AKA rocks,but they arnt the fastest.
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              • insixdays777
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                • Mar 2004
                • 857

                #22
                what marker has the fastest noid???

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                • Kallahan
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                  • Dec 2004
                  • 63

                  #23
                  I have seen a proto cycle at 37 (Software set to full auto, don't worry though, not going to be in anyboard anytime soon) however I do not know if it was cycling properly.

                  I find the mech cap at 22 to be really low for a spool valve. Mechanically speaking they are the simpliest method for markers, with the least moving parts(only the bolt moves). I cannot see any cocker, however, shooting much over 22 BPS. Without racing the hammer at least, there is too much going on, having to wait for the hammer to open the valve before you recock takes precious milliseconds.

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                  • minimag03
                    WVU paintball #19
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 2214

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Flow_Tech
                    no doubt,i know vikings rock.AKA rocks,but they arnt the fastest.
                    What is faster? I haven't seen any other marker firing a true 31 bps.
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                    • personman

                      #25
                      Originally posted by minimag03
                      What is faster? I haven't seen any other marker firing a true 31 bps.
                      Now you have

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                      • minimag03
                        WVU paintball #19
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 2214

                        #26
                        Originally posted by personman
                        I guess I was thinking about being about to play while shooting that fast. I think the scuba might slow you down a bit, but you could be a killer back player.
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                        • Aliens-8-MyDad
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                          • Oct 2001
                          • 2244

                          #27
                          am I the only one who finds it sick that paintball is all bps now? just feels so wrong...
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                          • MonsterMag
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                            • Aug 2004
                            • 1093

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Aliens-8-MyDad
                            am I the only one who finds it sick that paintball is all bps now? just feels so wrong...
                            I am with ya

                            Bps only concerns me when I am moving up on the field and need to lay down alot of fire for myself. Besides then its all accuracy and skill.

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                            • minimag03
                              WVU paintball #19
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 2214

                              #29
                              I think it's kinda weird that we are on an automag forum, yet we talk about wating paint. Remember we were the ones "wasting" paint in the early 90s.
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                              • Automaggot68

                                #30
                                Originally posted by MonsterMag
                                I am with ya

                                Bps only concerns me when I am moving up on the field and need to lay down alot of fire for myself. Besides then its all accuracy and skill.

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