The game if: There were no semis

[68magOwner]

whenever i play against pumps (weither i am using one at the time or not) i usually just run through a tapeline early in the game, when your used to avoiding 15+ bps lanes, getting out of the way of 1 ball isnt to tricky, so, really not as challenging IMO

[CrimsonGhost]

It would be fun THATS FOR SURE!!!

I think paint would be expensive still and we wouldnt have all the different companys in this sport.
Not much choice.

But it would be fun .

[Jaan]

I was thinking about this, how much different would the game be today if the semi had never evolved, or for that matter the pump. I was just thinking last night about making a "bolt action" marker... and how much it would influence how I played. Just curious what everyone thinks.

Bolt Action: Nelspot 007, Sheridan KP-1 rifle

I like semi, just not mad crazy electronic bouncy semi. I played back in the mid 80's and it was really fun but it didn't capture me like later on when semis appeared in the 90's. I guess sometimes I want to feel like I'm Rambo (c:

[Jeffy-CanCon]

whenever i play against pumps (weither i am using one at the time or not) i usually just run through a tapeline early in the game, when your used to avoiding 15+ bps lanes, getting out of the way of 1 ball isnt to tricky, so, really not as challenging IMO

You need to play against people who can hit a moving target!

[Aslan]

Bolt Action: Nelspot 007, Sheridan KP-1 rifle

I like semi, just not mad crazy electronic bouncy semi. I played back in the mid 80's and it was really fun but it didn't capture me like later on when semis appeared in the 90's. I guess sometimes I want to feel like I'm Rambo (c:

Well put.


I loved the game most when both sides are on an even footing and the game was cheap to play. Back when we had a field full of Talons, Tiger Sharks, Raptors, and Stingrays...ya went through about a half a case of paint tops...it was alot of fun and depended more on strategy and a little luck.

What ruined it is the first time the "one guy" showed up with Spyder...or a Tippmann 98...not that those guns are overpowering...but they open the door...and soon the field is all Tippmanns and Spyders...then the one guy shows up with a mag...and a couple guys show up with autocockers...

I used to go to the field with my Spyder and feel like I had a 50/50 chance. Now, I see guys that show up with electronic guns and $450 A5 flatlines...and I have to rely more on the refs ability to pick fair teams...and I hate to rely on that.

[68magOwner]

You need to play against people who can hit a moving target!

You need to learn to make yourself not get hit by those who think they can hit a moving target!

honestly, if you can only shoot 1 ball, i could stand there and dodge it, much less have you hit me while im running

[Jaan]

What ruined it is the first time the "one guy" showed up with Spyder...or a Tippmann 98...not that those guns are overpowering...but they open the door...and soon the field is all Tippmanns and Spyders...then the one guy shows up with a mag...and a couple guys show up with autocockers...

LOL, yeah, I was that "one guy". When all my friends had VM-68's and Pro-Lite's, I got a 'Mag. In all fairness though, I let my friends play with my 'Mag as much as I did so there's some good karma in that gun. It's a little disquieting spending all that time making a kick @$$ market and then being on the recieving end of it though (c:

[SpecialBlend2786]

well, it would be alot more fun to watch that's for sure

[Jeffy-CanCon]

You need to learn to make yourself not get hit by those who think they can hit a moving target!

honestly, if you can only shoot 1 ball, i could stand there and dodge it, much less have you hit me while im running

I don't say that "I" can reliably hit a moving target with a single shot, but I know more than a couple who can. If you can dodge a paintball at 280fps, maybe you are .

[bound for glory]

the game without semi's? a much better place

[Paintchucker]

You need to learn to make yourself not get hit by those who think they can hit a moving target!

honestly, if you can only shoot 1 ball, i could stand there and dodge it, much less have you hit me while im running

You actually have to practice both skills... Sure at a distance it is easy to sidestep a paintball, but up close and while you are on the run, not so easy.

I remember back when I started, we played pumps on Sat. Semis on Sunday. I took a vertical pump from a Mossberg Shotgun and modified it to fit on my Bushmaster Pump, complete with brass/bronze rails. One time after a game, I had a guy come up to me *****ing like hell "What are you doing, don't you know that Semis are only allowed on Sundays?"... I looked at him and smiled... "But it is a pump!" :) Shoots 3-4 shots a second, but still just a pump!

Another time, we were playing in the sleet. There were a couple tourny players, that they had divided evenly between the two teams. One of the guys had on an Airforce Parka, with the fur lined hood. He came running across the field at a diagonal. I hit him 3 times center of the chest. His coat was too thick, so the balls bounced, but it kinda freaked him that I hit him dead center on the run, so he called himself out... LOL

I have a couple trophys from when me and two buds started playing tourny. My favorite is the 1st place in the 3 man pump !!! We don't have the signatures anymore, but mine used to say: "Don't tell me bout your fancy gun. Tell me about pump guns and 1on1..."

[hitech]

You can't lane with a pump.

You might be surprised what you can do with a pump. I've played speedball with a pump (albeit against old single trigger semis and pumps) and it's not as hard as it sounds. Especially when the ROF of most everyone else is on the lower side.

I think if we were still on pump/bolt-action whatever the game wouldn't have gotten as popular, unfortunately.

I agree with this. It takes a lot of practice to fire fast with a pump. And it's one of those skills that you loose if you don't constantly practice. So, if we only had pumps there would be an even bigger skills gap between beginning players and those with experience. And the learning curve for the pump is MUCH higher than an electro-semi. The longer it takes to learn the necessary skills to be completive enough to get "hooked", the less people will.

[CrimsonTurkey]

Bolt action is great fun! My friend has a custom bolt action phantom. If you anchor the stock in your shoulder and support the gun with your left hand you can easily get a shot of every second nce you get a rhythm to it. The right hand just needs to keep moving.

[Thordic]

hitech, you can try to lane, but the vast majority of pumpers (and pumps) won't be able to put out enough paint to lane with the same effect you get today.

[Aslan]

Civil War

Every gun can be converted to bolt action by simply not using hoppers or tubes...

Some friends of mine and I were thinking of trying that...it's called "Civil War". You can use any gun you want...but you can only load paintballs by hand, no hoppers. We usually end up playing pump with 45 round hoppers because we don't feel like carrying a bag of paintballs with us while we're running around...but we'll probably try it eventually. The reason we end up playing pump is because it's just a small vacant field across from his house and semis end up being overkill. When we go to a "real field", we don't play pump unless our semi guns break. I don't want to start a "pump debate"...and in woodsball the ROF isn't as important anyway...but with everybody shooting 7-12bps...it's just too easy to get pinned down with a pump. If everyone used pumps...I'd love it! I'd probably play twice a month minimum because suddenly I'm not using 3/4 to a full case of paint per afternoon. But with guys coming out with Shockers and A5s and DM5s and trying to pelt some rec players...the pump "accuracy advantage" starts to deteriorate and the it comes down to simple math or superior tactics...or you buy a $650 "pump" that shoots 6-7bps and probably isn't a "pump" anymore if you're realistic.