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  • hitech
    Not a shedder of vortices
    • Nov 2001
    • 4775

    #46


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    • Lohman446
      Useful posts: 7
      • Jun 2003
      • 9315

      #47

      What is right for us... I don't need to determine what is right for them, our objectives should be based on what is right for us. Does it sound harsh? yeh... tough
      "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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      • KRAKMT
        Registered User
        • Sep 2003
        • 196

        #48




        It is better that people think your a dumb@$$ then for you to open your mouth and confirm it.

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        • shartley
          paintball player
          • Mar 2001
          • 9169

          #49
          Originally posted by Lohman446
          What is right for us... I don't need to determine what is right for them, our objectives should be based on what is right for us. Does it sound harsh? yeh... tough
          .... what he said.

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          • hitech
            Not a shedder of vortices
            • Nov 2001
            • 4775

            #50
            Originally posted by Lohman446
            What is right for us... I don't need to determine what is right for them, our objectives should be based on what is right for us. Does it sound harsh? yeh... tough
            It is never that simple. However, I still stand by "What give us the right to decide for other countries what is right?". We don't have the right to dictate the internal affairs of other countries.


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            • shartley
              paintball player
              • Mar 2001
              • 9169

              #51
              Originally posted by hitech
              It is never that simple. However, I still stand by "What give us the right to decide for other countries what is right?". We don't have the right to dictate the internal affairs of other countries.

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              • warbeak2099
                That is my foot!
                • Jan 2004
                • 4447

                #52
                Originally posted by hitech
                It is never that simple. However, I still stand by "What give us the right to decide for other countries what is right?". We don't have the right to dictate the internal affairs of other countries.
                Yes, we do not have the right to get rid of dictators who are murdering their people. That would be very wrong.

                Also, isolationism doesn't work. In the 30's, everyone said to themselves, "well Hitler isn't my problem so I won't intervene." He became their problem pretty fast. If we just sit back and let terrorism and genocide go unpunished, we aren't exactly living up to our responsibility. If you don't like having that responsibility then move to a smaller country. America is a superpower, we don't have the luxury of sitting back and letting chaos ensue. We have a responsibility as a superpower to make sure the world isn't going to hell.

                And don't freaking say, "well there are other countries experiencing genocide". Yea, well we can't get to everyone at once. We help one region at a time. Yes, Africa is in bad shape too. Well, thanks to Clinton our military doesn't have the strength to fight on 3 different fronts. Middle East, Africa, and Asia.
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                • hitech
                  Not a shedder of vortices
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 4775

                  #53
                  I see, it is up to US to decide what is right and wrong.


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                  • xsiegex
                    Bring the noise.
                    • May 2005
                    • 29

                    #54
                    I got a jury duty notice in the mail a while ago. I never went to it do to the fact that I have no form of transportation. Instead of going there and acting like a retard or an anti semi, fill the form out and put down no form of transportation.

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                    • Lohman446
                      Useful posts: 7
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9315

                      #55
                      Originally posted by hitech
                      I see, it is up to US to decide what is right and wrong.

                      As harsh as it may seem yes - it is up for us to decide what is right and wrong, based on what our best interests are. It sounded harsh the first time, it still does... but I think its reality
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                      • warbeak2099
                        That is my foot!
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4447

                        #56
                        Better us than the terrorists and dictators. You are too naive to think that the perfect world exists where people see eye to eye. No, America isn't perfect. But we're the lesser of two evils. Either have an unregulated world where there is no punishment or consequence for genocide and persecution, or have the system we have now. It's not a perfect system, but it's better than the first choice. I think everyone can agree on that. Well, except for dictator sickos.
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                        • Athius
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 533

                          #57
                          Originally posted by hitech
                          I see, it is up to US to decide what is right and wrong.

                          I call that the "superheroe syndrome".

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                          • slade
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 3442

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Lohman446
                            As harsh as it may seem yes - it is up for us to decide what is right and wrong, based on what our best interests are. It sounded harsh the first time, it still does... but I think its reality
                            because we're always right(TM).

                            I still dont see an answer to my question... how are my (or anyone else in the US, for that matter) rights being protected by the war?
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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #59
                              Originally posted by slade
                              because we're always right(TM).

                              I still dont see an answer to my question... how are my (or anyone else in the US, for that matter) rights being protected by the war?
                              The right not to have a WMD used against one of our cities? I don't beleive we went in because of Saddam - right or wrong he was a "reasonable" person at least in regards to attacking us. I beleive his eldest son, Udai (sp?) though we had serious doubts about and were concerned that he would risk an entire nation on some holy crusade to hurt us. You have to remember the intelligence we went in on, right or wrong, was that Saddam had WMDs and a desire to see them used against us. I'm not defending the accuracy of that satement (though I still beleive Iraq HAD WMDs) but only pointing out why we did it. I don't especially agree with this "hearts and minds" democratization of Iraq and think that we are stirring serious problems there, in Syria, Saudi, and Iran with what we are trying to do. Granted we can't just leave, but I do not beleive whatever government we set up lasts for more than 50-100 years and very likely much less.
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                              • Athius
                                Registered User
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 533

                                #60
                                Originally posted by slade
                                because we're always right(TM).

                                I still dont see an answer to my question... how are my (or anyone else in the US, for that matter) rights being protected by the war?
                                That is the cheap excuse that politicians are giving out go to war to protect our freedom and rights.

                                In reality is to control the oil market the #1 energy source in the world.

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