Possibly the perfect gun

[yakitori]

no.... I believe the Ion uses a spool valve.

The insides of the Freestyle are very similar to the mag though.

wrong. Its blowforward. VFX describes it for you. And I wouldnt say it if I didnt own one and have disassembled and relubed it and know how the gun works.

Its the one gun that is most similar to mag design as far as bolt function. Even moreso than the freestyle. Only its electro pneumatic, and has less kick, and a buttload quieter, and the inline reg runs at 140psi on mine w/ the QEV in it. And my dwell is at 5.5 ms as oppposed to 16ms stock. .

[Alpha]

Someone has already done that...they go by the name of Smart Parts and they call it a shocker

Oww.. my heart.. Ahh it burns

[yakitori]

The perfect gun is the one that fits your style of play the best at the time. As time goes on and your style progresses so will your need to change, either a little or a lot depending on the person. There will never be a "perfect" gun because someone will always come along and find some way to make something that either adds to its performance or to its looks. If what you listed is your perfect gun then get started studying the various fields that wil put you in a place to build it. You never know, it may become the next "insert name of over-hyped hunk of aluminum here." Good luck and happy hunting.

agreed.

[SpecialBlend2786]

wrong. Its blowforward. VFX describes it for you. And I wouldnt say it if I didnt own one and have disassembled and relubed it and know how the gun works.

Its the one gun that is most similar to mag design as far as bolt function. Even moreso than the freestyle. Only its electro pneumatic, and has less kick, and a buttload quieter, and the inline reg runs at 140psi on mine w/ the QEV in it. And my dwell is at 5.5 ms as oppposed to 16ms stock. .

I stand corrected in that case lol :)

[vegasmunky12]

Why would you want to remove the reg? The mag reg has the fastest recharge ever. Why you would want to get rid of it is beyond me.

Not get rid of it, move it. Reread his post.

[Dayspring]

Look up "pressure drop across the line". You'll then realize why the mag reg is bolted directly on to the back of the air chamber.

[FallNAngel]

Even moreso than the freestyle.

Only in the fact that it cuts off its own air supply... other than that, I don't see how one is more like a mag than the other.

Isnt DYE suing Smart Parts because they believe its a Spool Valve? Is DYE wrong too?

AFAIK, they're suing Smart Parts because the bolt cuts off it's own air supply, which is patented by Dye

[p8ntball365]

Not get rid of it, move it. Reread his post.

No he said "use vert reg instead"

[yakitori]

Isnt DYE suing Smart Parts because they believe its a Spool Valve? Is DYE wrong too?

didnt they drop the case? And dye believing it is spool valve doesnt make it so. Ive even seen a magazine w/ a review on the ion and they called it a spool valve. Its not. Spool valves are like matrixes and shockers, The Ion operates just like the mag. I guess the freestlye is the same too.

here, scroll down to number 11. The Ion bolt is always pressurized in the back. It is always pressurized in the front unless when firing. Spool valves are not always pressurized in the front, or back. Read the link and here is the bolt animation. Im sure youve seen it already though. I wont post a picture of it because its not an Ion thread, and I dont want the fanboys getting ticked about it.

http://www.kamworld.net/paintball/IonFAQ_Technical.html#T10

[Aliens-8-MyDad]

Possibly the perfect gun = the Ego.

[quik]

Make it a vertical reg, then every ball will shoot back up into your hopper!

Great idea guys!

[Lohman446]

Ehhh...

If I am asked what gun will still be in my gear bag in five years its a mechanical mag.

I can't say the same thing for the various Shockers, Ions, or even the Proto I am shooting now.

[slade]

Actually it pretty closely describes a freestyle. The insides are pretty darn mag-like.

and that just about is the perfect gun

[KRAKMT]

I shoot a hyper/dallara and just bought the new freestyle v7. The function is pretty close and after looking at the ion animation- I am surprised by how close the ion is to the v7. Neither close the input of the air during fire like the mag. Looks like a pnuematic driven bolt with leg back to the on/off would create an improvement over the ion/freestyle design.

[matt-o]

Remains that the Ion is a blow-foward semi with a pneumatic return (as opposed to the spring that the Mag uses). The Ion uses air from the dump chamber to push the bolt forward, the Mag works the same way though the design is slightly different. The Ion is a Mag that's all pneumatic in its essence.

This differs from guns like the Shocker and Matrix (though not by much) which move thier bolts forward with pneumatic pressure routed through the selenoid and not soley from the dump chamber.

hah, i assumed it worked ike the shocker. why would SP design a new bolt system if they already had the spool valve down? why not just make a cheap spool valve instead of desgning a new bolt system?