Element Ion Update

[sithos]

the $17,000 is for comfirmed preorders, but I do not accept cash before the items are ready to ship. Yes, I know that this means there will be people who do not follow through with their preorder, but its still a good indication of interest.

If you don't like the body, thats not a problem, I sell them seperate, and as a combo.
If you don't like the frame, see above.
If you don't like either one, well, there are other people who make things for the ion, and I'm sure one of them can make you happy.

What I have for sale is the result of a 3 months of research on the pbnation ion forum, and other ion forums as to what actual ion owners want.

[Lenny]

Ok... for saying this I'm probably going to get hammered too, but, oh well! I think it's sexy! I think it's probably look great with a gloss black frame and body, but make the inside thingy matte blue (ok, I love blue/black markers, I admit it). I'd probably buy one if it weren't an Ion. Not that Ions are bad, it just seems like all of a sudden EVERYONE has one, and that's a MAJOR turn off for me. As for SP, I don't like the company very much, or Impulses (I hate Impulses), but I sure do LOVE the Freak!

(Ok, you can all bash me now...)

[JimmyBeam]

I'd probably buy one if it weren't an Ion. Not that Ions are bad, it just seems like all of a sudden EVERYONE has one,
(Ok, you can all bash me now...)

well yea everyone does have one. but, other than fully bone stock Ions, how many upped Ions are exactly the same? you build it with exactly what you want on it.


*cough* mag owners should appreciate that

[MadPSIence]

well yea everyone does have one. but, other than fully bone stock Ions, how many upped Ions are exactly the same? you build it with exactly what you want on it.


*cough* mag owners should appreciate that

reguardless..ions are mass produced, rather cheaply built and in my opinion are throw-away guns. why would mag owners appreciate that?

[CKY_Alliance]

reguardless..ions are mass produced, rather cheaply built and in my opinion are throw-away guns. why would mag owners appreciate that?

He was refering to the customizablity ...other words you can make them your own since there are so many upgrades to change the appearence..sorta like.....hrmmmm o yea mags.

as far as the frame and body go body is alright i like the frame sicne its metal not plastic..just seems sturdier.

[JimmyBeam]

reguardless..ions are mass produced, rather cheaply built and in my opinion are throw-away guns. why would mag owners appreciate that?

throw away. ok, ill be the first to say the stock, run of the mill SP Ion wasnt made to you guys's higher standards. well hey, guess what. once you finish building your Ion, theres nothing SP left on the gun except for the innertube(which will most likely be replaced by someone elses company tube). and the new Oarnge HE bolt is going to allow for 1600+ shots of a 68/45

you guys are running out of negative things to say about it, so you turn to....."omg *pukes*" as responses. you think your emag is a pretty gun? nope, stock, ugliest thing ever. but like the ion you can make it into whatever you want. i would choose the Ion over the Emag regardless, and Im sure most of you would rather quit playing paintball than shoot an ion. but like I said before, your starting to tun out of things to complain about, especially with more and more upgrades coming out every month to replace "the crappy parts"

~50 cases not a snigle problem or chop. results speak for themselves

[Magz_rule]

throw away. ok, ill be the first to say the stock, run of the mill SP Ion wasnt made to you guys's higher standards. well hey, guess what. once you finish building your Ion, theres nothing SP left on the gun except for the innertube(which will most likely be replaced by someone elses company tube). and the new Oarnge HE bolt is going to allow for 1600+ shots of a 68/45

you guys are running out of negative things to say about it, so you turn to....."omg *pukes*" as responses. you think your emag is a pretty gun? nope, stock, ugliest thing ever. but like the ion you can make it into whatever you want. i would choose the Ion over the Emag regardless, and Im sure most of you would rather quit playing paintball than shoot an ion. but like I said before, your starting to tun out of things to complain about, especially with more and more upgrades coming out every month to replace "the crappy parts"

~50 cases not a snigle problem or chop. results speak for themselves

Great post. :)

[Lohman446]

throw away. ok, ill be the first to say the stock, run of the mill SP Ion wasnt made to you guys's higher standards. well hey, guess what. once you finish building your Ion, theres nothing SP left on the gun except for the innertube(which will most likely be replaced by someone elses company tube). and the new Oarnge HE bolt is going to allow for 1600+ shots of a 68/45

you guys are running out of negative things to say about it, so you turn to....."omg *pukes*" as responses. you think your emag is a pretty gun? nope, stock, ugliest thing ever. but like the ion you can make it into whatever you want. i would choose the Ion over the Emag regardless, and Im sure most of you would rather quit playing paintball than shoot an ion. but like I said before, your starting to tun out of things to complain about, especially with more and more upgrades coming out every month to replace "the crappy parts"

~50 cases not a snigle problem or chop. results speak for themselves

I think I was rather explicit in why I did not care for this. As to me caring in the least about who made it... well I happen to like SP so cant go there. And what "Crappy" parts? The trigger sucked and was easily broken, but everything else in my ion functioned as it was meant to.

I find it funny that all of the upgrades (trigger and detents not included) that are "oh so great" do nothing to change performance...

[JimmyBeam]

I think I was rather explicit in why I did not care for this. As to me caring in the least about who made it... well I happen to like SP so cant go there. And what "Crappy" parts? The trigger sucked and was easily broken, but everything else in my ion functioned as it was meant to.

ok as much as you may think it does, when someone refers to something that someone said, it doesnt neccesarily mean that they were talking about you. the world does not revolve around lohman. i actually quoted MadPS if you care to scroll up.

[Lohman446]

ok as much as you may think it does, when someone refers to something that someone said, it doesnt neccesarily mean that they were talking about you. the world does not revolve around lohman. i actually quoted MadPS if you care to scroll up.

Does too.. actually this is the part that catches me the "you guys" so often implies all of AO... I just think it important to point out that there are many (I would argue the majority) of us that are not cultist in nature

[JimmyBeam]

Does too.. actually this is the part that catches me the "you guys" so often implies all of AO... I just think it important to point out that there are many (I would argue the majority) of us that are not cultist in nature

ok......you're 100% correct. you guys is to much of a generaization of the entire community here. i apologize.


but for the rest of the you guys....yea you know who you are ....try not to be so ignorant and a little more open minded to change and new things

[Muzikman]

throw away. ok, ill be the first to say the stock, run of the mill SP Ion wasnt made to you guys's higher standards. well hey, guess what. once you finish building your Ion, theres nothing SP left on the gun except for the innertube(which will most likely be replaced by someone elses company tube). and the new Oarnge HE bolt is going to allow for 1600+ shots of a 68/45

you guys are running out of negative things to say about it, so you turn to....."omg *pukes*" as responses. you think your emag is a pretty gun? nope, stock, ugliest thing ever. but like the ion you can make it into whatever you want. i would choose the Ion over the Emag regardless, and Im sure most of you would rather quit playing paintball than shoot an ion. but like I said before, your starting to tun out of things to complain about, especially with more and more upgrades coming out every month to replace "the crappy parts"

~50 cases not a snigle problem or chop. results speak for themselves

If you hate mags so much, why the hell are you on a mag board. Get the hell out if all you think of AO is that we are "AGD Drones".

[Muzikman]

And I'll add this.

Do I like Smart Parts? No
Do I own an Ion? No
Would I ever own an Ion? No
Do I think this kit is ugly? Yes
Is it becuase it's for an Ion? No
Would I buy one even if it was for a Mag? No

[JimmyBeam]

If you hate mags so much, why the hell are you on a mag board. Get the hell out if all you think of AO is that we are "AGD Drones".

exactly. nothing to say about the Ion, so you fall back in a defensive mode, and claim i hate mags. i dont hate mage, i loved mine until the day i sold it. we're trying to have a conversation here about Ions, if your going to throw a fit and start accusing me that im a mag hater....look dude, at least try and stay up on topic with us k?

telll you what, everyone has a style of play and the gun to best suit them for it. this gun is just another choice in the market right now. and its shocking alot of people who never expected the ion to make it. Gun of the year IMO. its brought alot of people to the sport, and proved that you dont need a 1k gun to compete. not to mention over 30k sold in 4-5 months

[Lohman446]

could you elaborate just a bit as to why you dont like it? or you just saying that simply becasue its an Ion?

You don't understand this is where it turned into a X vs Ion thread do you? he posted "pukes" before this because it is ugly - in many of our opinions. You cannot jump into "you don't like it because its an Ion" mode every time someone says they don't like something on an Ion. That thing would be ugly on a mag / Shocker / Ion / Colt 1911 / Angelina Jolie (ok, maybe not there, but you get what I mean)....

Relax... this turned into "about Ion" thread because you made it turn into about Ion, rather than ending with a good start "Could you elaborate just a bit as to why you don't like it?" you had to go on and add "or you just saying that simply because its an Ion" turning this into yet another "Ion VS XX" thread which... you turned it into. Thats what gets old about it

To reiterate - its ugly because its ugly, who cares what marker it is on. Some of us even went into further explanations as to why we thought it was ugly...