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  • MadPSIence
    Innovation 101
    • Mar 2005
    • 969

    #1

    The Mag-Ingorance I Live With

    This is the typical kid from where I play.. and a quoted post from the local forum..

    "I had a .68 automag way back in the day, and it honestly was awesome, however it was replaced cause it just couldnt keep up. I would never trade my DM5 for a tricked out mag..... among other reasons 1 being no resale value, they are dinosaurs that no one wants."

    This guy shot a .68 Automag.. era 1990.. and says mags are dinosaurs and can't keep up.

    The battlefront is glowing bright orange and yellow with flames over at saskpb..

    Can you believe it? A kid brings THIS



    to a tourny.. can't keep up.. so says mags suck and buys a "dmfizzle"
  • WARPED1
    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
    • Nov 2001
    • 7458

    #2
    Unfortunayely, he's right. Now, yall are about to spout off "DEVILMAG! DEVILMAG!". But not only are they nearly non existant()hey, it's custom, deal with the wait!), and to me it's not really a mag, just a mag chassis with a great e kit and eyes. A whole new beast!
    [Something Cool is Here]

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    • teufelhunden
      Registered Bamf
      • Jul 2003
      • 2691

      #3
      Nice spelling of ignorance, btw.

      Anyway, is he wrong in any respect? Can a 'Mag, no matter how new or old, how 'tricked' or stock, compare to a DM5? Do 'Mags have a good resale value? How recently have there been any improvements to the 'Mag? I'd go so far as to say that the last innovative thing out of Airgun was the LX-- ULE bodies should've been out in the mid to late nineties, ULT was needed earlier as well. Lately, anything from AGD is like correcting the tire pressure on a totalled car-- too little, too late.

      As good as 'Mags are as what they do, there is no ignorance in anything that the player has said about 'Mags. I believe you, sir, are the ignorant one for believing something obviously untrue in that Airgun still makes the top gun on the field.
      SwallowBleach: It's good for you.

      www.seckspb.com: for all your third party needs


      Where have all the scooters gone? -BobTheCow

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      • WARPED1
        I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
        • Nov 2001
        • 7458

        #4
        Couldn't have said it better myself teuf.
        [Something Cool is Here]

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        • cdacda13
          WDP: Fly or Die
          • Jan 2005
          • 841

          #5
          Ha, comparing a CLASSIC Mag to a DM5.
          Born to be hated
          Dying to be loved

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          • Recon by Fire
            Enimo Et Fide
            • Mar 2003
            • 1706

            #6
            Funny, I have never felt obsolete or out gunned on the field...

            Last time I overheard someone laying down the typical trash talk about mags we were playing some 3v3. A fellow on the other team was telling his buddies about how bad mags are. Our first two games were over in record time. First game I eliminated all 3 of them. The second game I eliminated two of them. At that point they decided to check out what old middle aged guy with the funky set-up is shooting. They couldn't recognize the marker so they asked. I just smiled and said "Oh, this is just a Mag" and walked off. His two buddies gave him the look of "you are a dumb @__".

            Priceless I was shooting my warped X-mag that day.


            I believe Daroach used a slogan: "For me and my house, we serve the Mag."

            AGD X-Mag #XT00187
            AGD Tac-One
            WGP 2003
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            • Lee
              Team Trigger Happy
              • Nov 2002
              • 2395

              #7
              i swept 10 guys today w/ my mag. took out the whole other team except for the tippy that got me. granted it's not stock, but it's not electro either.

              and yes, there were multiple electros on the other team: ions, dm's, shockers...oh my!

              Florida peeps...step up!!
              My Feedback
              "They do not preach that their God will rouse them a little before the nuts work loose."
              -Rudyard Kipling: The Sons of Martha
              "To understand the Automag, you have to think like an air molecule."
              -Sparky Melber

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              • MadPSIence
                Innovation 101
                • Mar 2005
                • 969

                #8
                Originally posted by teufelhunden
                Nice spelling of ignorance, btw.

                Anyway, is he wrong in any respect? Can a 'Mag, no matter how new or old, how 'tricked' or stock, compare to a DM5? Do 'Mags have a good resale value? How recently have there been any improvements to the 'Mag? I'd go so far as to say that the last innovative thing out of Airgun was the LX-- ULE bodies should've been out in the mid to late nineties, ULT was needed earlier as well. Lately, anything from AGD is like correcting the tire pressure on a totalled car-- too little, too late.

                As good as 'Mags are as what they do, there is no ignorance in anything that the player has said about 'Mags. I believe you, sir, are the ignorant one for believing something obviously untrue in that Airgun still makes the top gun on the field.
                by now you must have grown accustomed to the taste of your own foot.

                the point of this thread was a kid based his opinion of mags on his use of a .68 Automag.

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                • Beemer
                  I could tell you but then.

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 3250

                  #9
                  Couldn't have said it better myself Rogue

                  __________

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                  • WARPED1
                    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 7458

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RogueFactor
                    If it uses the AGD valve, its a mag.

                    There are only 2 things that limit electro markers these days:

                    1) The chip/board
                    2) The recharge(yes, that includes the mechanics of the marker,regulation, First Shot Drop Off).

                    The mag has the fastest, if not one of the fastest, recharges on the market. So, with a fast chip/board, like the DevilMag's Predator board, there is very little that it cant compete with speed-wise.

                    To say otherwise would be uninformed...
                    I said except the DMag, read. It's a whole new gun just built on the chassis of a mag, they should call it the Puma or something.
                    [Something Cool is Here]

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                    • ottomobile
                      Obey me, I am ROOT
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 296

                      #11
                      A mag is still the only marker on the field that can shoot 26bps wet or dry. No fickle electronics to mess up in the rain. That baby will will just keep going and going...

                      I say the mag is still the most impressive marker on the field. Nothing out there can beat its total package. If you did a blind test and just listed its specs people would pic it every time.

                      26 bps
                      <15 ounce trigger pull
                      1 screw field strip
                      Ultra light
                      Anti-chop that will always work
                      Incredibly reliable
                      quiet
                      accurate
                      no kick
                      Integrated regulator
                      super efficient
                      And no batteries to replace


                      Heck, it sounds like a dream come true. The only problem with the mag is as cool as us AOers think it looks, most people don't think its flashy enough.

                      Mags rule!

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                      • wimag
                        BEZERKERS
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 1334

                        #12
                        how old is this kid ?
                        BEZERKERS
                        ALL MAG SHOOTING TEAM

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                        • MadPSIence
                          Innovation 101
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 969

                          #13
                          20.. so like 6-7 years older than the average agg kiddie

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                          • Lohman446
                            Useful posts: 7
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 9315

                            #14
                            I have a Devilmag, I have a Proto - I have shot (more than once, at least a case through each playing) Shockers, 05 Angel Speeds, Karnivores, and a few other markers.

                            Now if you all want me to say the Devilmag blew them away... no. Let me say this, I use semi only, so all the modes in the world don't mean a thing to me - but all the markers have pretty comparable modes available - some stock, some not.

                            The fact of the matter is though, any of those markers perform to my expectations of a top tournament level marker. I am as comfortable taking my Devilmag on the field as any other marker made today. I don't feel that I give up anything when comparing it to any other marker available today.

                            That being said.. to me, except for a Devilmag (EYES PEOPLE EYES) you would be hard pressed to convince me any other mag could compare to a DM5 when playing.

                            Rogue was right The answer to the original question "Can a mag, tricked out, compare to a DM5?" The answer, to me is an emphatic yes it can... He did not list things that you had to stop at. To me a mag, with good eyes, be it by the Devilmag mod (tested) Coolhands mod (hypothetical), or a Predator mod (hypothetical) can most certainly compare to a DM5.
                            Last edited by Lohman446; 07-23-2005, 03:45 PM.
                            "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                            • nt2004
                              yeah, thats right...
                              • May 2003
                              • 832

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ottomobile
                              A mag is still the only marker on the field that can shoot 26bps wet or dry. No fickle electronics to mess up in the rain. That baby will will just keep going and going...
                              I dont know if that really matters. First day I had my proto, I dove head first into a puddle of muddy water and I didnt have any problems
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