The Mag-Ingorance I Live With

[raehl]

The big deal about eyes is that you dont have to adjust them.Atleast that why i prefer eyes.

No, the big deal is this:

If you pull the trigger and a ball has not fed correctly, with level 10, you have to pull the trigger again to get a shot - your original trigger pull is lost.

With eyes, the board waits for the paintball to show up, and if it does feed within X time (usually 100-250 ms), it will fire the paintball - you don't have to pull the trigger a second time.

- Chris

[Lee]

No, the big deal is this:

If you pull the trigger and a ball has not fed correctly, with level 10, you have to pull the trigger again to get a shot - your original trigger pull is lost.

With eyes, the board waits for the paintball to show up, and if it does feed within X time (usually 100-250 ms), it will fire the paintball - you don't have to pull the trigger a second time.

- Chris

immaterial if your walking. you just walk through either the shot delay w/ eyes or the reset w/ level 10.
emag w/ halo and it's a non issue.

minor annoyance w/ a mech mag.

[CKY_Alliance]

No, the big deal is this:

If you pull the trigger and a ball has not fed correctly, with level 10, you have to pull the trigger again to get a shot - your original trigger pull is lost.

With eyes, the board waits for the paintball to show up, and if it does feed within X time (usually 100-250 ms), it will fire the paintball - you don't have to pull the trigger a second time.

- Chris

That as well becasue shooting a nice stream of paint and then your lvl 10 takes affect is kinda annoying..all though i cant comment on eyes becasue i havent used a gun with them before...well not played a game with one ...but as far as not having to adjust them like lvl 10 makes me liek them more so then lvl10

[dolphin1823]

boo whoo, I have to adjust my LvL 10.
The only times I've had to touch my Lvl 10 set up is after the intinal break in and when I went from playing outdoors to playing indoors because of the lower fps.

Try adjusting the velocity of the VM-68, where you have to take out all the interanls to rotate the main valve to adjust the hole size when you couldn't get the right velocity with the main bolt screw. You paintball veterans will know what I'm talking about.

[Lohman446]

boo whoo, I have to adjust my LvL 10.

Thats one way to look at it... funny, when I got sick of LX I looked around for an AGD product - I bought a Shocker. It took a custom built mag to bring me back.

[Dryden]

Try adjusting the velocity of the VM-68, where you have to take out all the interanls to rotate the main valve to adjust the hole size when you couldn't get the right velocity with the main bolt screw. You paintball veterans will know what I'm talking about.

Ugh, don't remind me ... I cannot tell you how many times I was out at a field with my friends where we'd all look at each other as we're all over the map from 250 to 350fps ...

"So, are you set at 3 o'clock or 6 o'clock?"
"Uhh ... is the 12 o'clock position higher than the 9 o'clock?"
"Hey, does anyone have the thing to rotate the valve?"

The ease of velocity adjustment was the selling feature of the Mag way back in the day.

My only complaint with the Level 10 versus eyes is that it only takes one swollen/bad paintball in a too-tight bore to cause the Level 10 to chuff resulting in a double feed, which in turn often leads to a barrel break. Bad paint is just a part of the game, particularly on muggy days when the humidity is at or over 40 or 50% so the paint goes bad the moment you open the bag. Level 10 is incredible, but it isn't the be-all-end-all solution.

[dre1919]

You know, IMHO it's something of a waste of time to argue this gun over that gun and whatnot. I mean really, I think anybody with any knowledge of science and the sport itself can realize which markers will shoot faster and which won't. The thing is though, any player with a marker of any kind has just as much chance of taking someone out. The better the equipment, however, the better chances they have based on sheer perfromance and firepower. But as good as the marker is it will never supercede the player. The player is the one making the moves, aiming, pulling the trigger, and getting the eliminations. If you hand a kid whose never played a game in his life a Matrix and a veteran a stock, classic Mag from the 90's I would feel comfortable saying the veteran will find a way to win 90% of the time or higher.

That doesn't mean that all guns are equal and the player is the only important thing. No, no...quite the contrary. In fact, in certain cases the equipment can really make the player out to be better than he is. I just feel like a lot of people spend time trying to figure out "which gun is the best on the market" when in reality there is no right answer. The closest thing to that answer is "what feels right for you?" I've never shot a Timmy or a DM4, or even an A4 but I'm not really worried I'm missing out. I shoot a 2000 LCD Angel. She's fast, reliable, sleek, and has all the features I really need (and can justify spending the money on). I am quite comfortable saying it is the finest marker I have ever owned. I've also had Tippman's, Automag Classic's and RT's, and an Angel ir3. All of them were fine markers, and worked very well for what I asked them to do, but they didn't bring the total package together like my LCD. Sure, I could go out and get the latest thing...but why? I feel I'm a pretty lethal player with this marker, I know it inside and out, and it's comfortable in my hand. It is an extention of me when playing. I know exactly how much of it can be hung out in snap shooting. I know how fast it will fire. I'm at peace with my marker choice, and I have better things to do than argue it's merits.

I'm not attempting to belittle anyone for doing so, I'm just saying "What's the difference?" Find what you like, make it work the best for you, and don't worry about the hype.

My .02

dre

[BigEvil]

boo whoo, I have to adjust my LvL 10.
The only times I've had to touch my Lvl 10 set up is after the intinal break in and when I went from playing outdoors to playing indoors because of the lower fps.

Try adjusting the velocity of the VM-68, where you have to take out all the interanls to rotate the main valve to adjust the hole size when you couldn't get the right velocity with the main bolt screw. You paintball veterans will know what I'm talking about.

WOW Im having a flashback!!

Yeah, the velocity thing was big back then. So was the fact you could shoot the mag much faster than anything out there at the time.


The Lvl10 on my 4 mags all work great. I have no complaints. The eyes on my Angels also work great. No complaints there either. Then again, I've also invested alot of money in having the BEST possible hopper set up that I can in order to feed the guns reliably.

At the field recently I have been talking to alot of players with Bushmasters, Imps and older Angel Speeds, all without eyes. They all tell me the same thing: they get by fine with their Halos + V35 boards. They also arent hose monsters, but can be when they need to. I have been on the wrong end of it, so I know.

So basically, as ALWAYS, what is best for you will be different from what is best for someone else.