Why did AGD get rid of the Emag?

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  • AGD-OfficeGal
    Dragon Lady
    • Sep 2001
    • 418

    #46
    To set the record straight: The Xmag was discontinued a year ago. As Tom noted at the time, in addition to the uncertain legal climate surrounding electronic triggers, it had become extremely difficult for us to get those fancy X-bodies. (Airgun Europe has since ceased production of the Xmag as well.) Emags are not yet discontinued; again, at the time Tom stated that we would phase them out when the stock of certain essential parts needed for manufacture (not spare parts!) was low/gone. That hasn't happened yet.

    I'm just going to bite my tongue - hard - rather than reply to the discussion of pricing.

    Marcia

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    • WARPED1
      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
      • Nov 2001
      • 7458

      #47
      My question is why are we still discussing this!? Tom himself gave the real reason. Fin. Mods, close thread.
      [Something Cool is Here]

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      • Lohman446
        Useful posts: 7
        • Jun 2003
        • 9315

        #48
        Originally posted by WARPED1
        My question is why are we still discussing this!? Tom himself gave the real reason. Fin. Mods, close thread.
        Because, it wasn't 100% SPs fault so we are going to continue to discuss it until we bury TKs response in wild guess and accusation, supported by a few widely spaced and mostly inconsequential facts until we can make it SPs fault again... like duh
        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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        • 11 Bravo
          Predatored Karta Mag
          • May 2005
          • 1247

          #49
          So its SPs fault again?
          yeah down with SP!!!!!

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          • WARPED1
            I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
            • Nov 2001
            • 7458

            #50
            Originally posted by Lohman446
            Because, it wasn't 100% SPs fault so we are going to continue to discuss it until we bury TKs response in wild guess and accusation, supported by a few widely spaced and mostly inconsequential facts until we can make it SPs fault again... like duh
            Kids today, they don't make them like they used to.........................
            Last edited by WARPED1; 07-26-2005, 03:39 PM.
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            • WAH11AU
              Registered User
              • Feb 2005
              • 12

              #51
              Originally posted by AGD-OfficeGal
              To set the record straight: The Xmag was discontinued a year ago. As Tom noted at the time, in addition to the uncertain legal climate surrounding electronic triggers, it had become extremely difficult for us to get those fancy X-bodies. (Airgun Europe has since ceased production of the Xmag as well.) Emags are not yet discontinued; again, at the time Tom stated that we would phase them out when the stock of certain essential parts needed for manufacture (not spare parts!) was low/gone. That hasn't happened yet.

              I'm just going to bite my tongue - hard - rather than reply to the discussion of pricing.

              Marcia

              Thanks Marcia,

              Adam

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              • blykins
                Registered User
                • Mar 2004
                • 193

                #52
                Originally posted by 11 Bravo
                The EMAG will keep up with most any marker out on the market. AGD should have just made some small cosmetic changes and kept it on the market. screw SP.
                Not when youve got peolpe pulling at 4bps but shooitng 20bps b/c of ramp. "Emags dont ramp therefore they are not cool."--local baller at my field
                AGD RT Pro-Pewter ULE body, ULE trigger, AGD Xvalve w/ level10, AGD Intelliframe, chrome shocktech dropforward, Halo B.
                88/4500 SP Maxflo.
                Click here for a pic

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                • Lohman446
                  Useful posts: 7
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9315

                  #53
                  Originally posted by blykins
                  Not when youve got peolpe pulling at 4bps but shooitng 20bps b/c of ramp. "Emags dont ramp therefore they are not cool."--local baller at my field
                  The E-mag was going downhill before ramping was so easily and readily available to the everyday player.
                  "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                  • WARPED1
                    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 7458

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Lohman446
                    The E-mag was going downhill before ramping was so easily and readily available to the everyday player.
                    Don't get this wrong, because I like Emags for what they are. The best rec gun ever made. The concept was great for tourney players, but didn't have the bells and whistles todays tourney plasyer wants. The ULE doesn't count because it came out too late to save the Emag. I t would be cool if AGD bought the Devikmag design and made it LP.
                    [Something Cool is Here]

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                    • slade
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 3442

                      #55
                      Originally posted by blykins
                      Not when youve got peolpe pulling at 4bps but shooitng 20bps b/c of ramp. "Emags dont ramp therefore they are not cool."--local baller at my field
                      what lohman said, plus... predator board anyone?

                      WARPED1 - i dont think the mag design can be made lower pressure, while keeping the level 10. plus the only real advantage LP has is allowing it to shoot further into the tank. making it LP might kill the recharge also.
                      xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                      68/30 PE nitro tank
                      cp unimount
                      halo B

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                      • r-unit
                        ^that's me.
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 177

                        #56
                        I was about to say that, Slade. With the Predator Board, we can put these "ion" characters to shame. Hell, I am a hard-core "angel, timmy, dm4/5/c, ego, shocker" type user person, and I saw the Predator board for the emag...Im buying one now.

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                        • WARPED1
                          I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 7458

                          #57
                          Originally posted by slade
                          what lohman said, plus... predator board anyone?

                          WARPED1 - i dont think the mag design can be made lower pressure, while keeping the level 10. plus the only real advantage LP has is allowing it to shoot further into the tank. making it LP might kill the recharge also.
                          I know about LP. But it's the buxx word that would sell the gun, well at least help. If lp would kill the current recharge, redesign the valve. Being electro you wouldn't need ReacTivity.
                          I'm not arguing with the function of the Emag, it works. But it doesn't look good, you may say "function over fasion" and all that crap, but it matters in todays game. Not to make the gun shoot better, because it doesn't, but for sales. No one will buy your gun(except here on AO:)) if it doesn't look good and shoot LP...............
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                          • 11 Bravo
                            Predatored Karta Mag
                            • May 2005
                            • 1247

                            #58
                            All they need to do is upgrade the Emag board. Most any gun can ramp. Its not the gun its
                            the board. My A5 shoots 17 bps with my WAS board. It could shoot even faster if the feeder could keep up.

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                            • JRingold
                              Big Fat Guy
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 772

                              #59
                              Originally posted by AGD-OfficeGal
                              To set the record straight: The Xmag was discontinued a year ago. As Tom noted at the time, in addition to the uncertain legal climate surrounding electronic triggers, it had become extremely difficult for us to get those fancy X-bodies. (Airgun Europe has since ceased production of the Xmag as well.) Emags are not yet discontinued; again, at the time Tom stated that we would phase them out when the stock of certain essential parts needed for manufacture (not spare parts!) was low/gone. That hasn't happened yet.

                              I'm just going to bite my tongue - hard - rather than reply to the discussion of pricing.

                              Marcia
                              At the new price, I should buy a new E-Mag. I just got my "new in box" X-Mag from PPP in Toronto a couple of weeks back and I think my wife wouldn't be too happy about it. Dang good sale price though.

                              E-Mags are not yet discontinued... Is anyone able to estimate a projection of timeframe for that to occur? I'm not asking anyone to provide this information, just does someone there know???
                              I went like this :shooting:
                              He went like this :tard: then like this :wow: then like this :cry:
                              Now he shoots a Mag too...

                              -JR

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                              • WARPED1
                                I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 7458

                                #60
                                I may buy one used to slap in the new Pred. board.................
                                [Something Cool is Here]

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