Mags in Tournaments

[WARPED1]

OOOOO bad move. You called Tunaman an Idot not the best of moves HAHAHAHA and dont forget we have canadians on the fourm too

No. I said don't act like an idiot. Big difference.
And it doesn't matter if you have Canadian posters, it only matters where the forum is based, in this case USA.

[BD_Paintball]

They are just mad their mag is Inferior to most high-end tourney markers that cost the same amount of money

[WARPED1]

They are just mad their mag is Inferior to most high-end tourney markers that cost the same amount of money

Yes.
AND I NEVER SAID MAGS SUCK! STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!

[Lohman446]

They are just mad their mag is Inferior to most high-end tourney markers that cost the same amount of money

This coming from the Imp>Mag... ? Come now, I know my mag cost more than a lot of high end markers - but I am just as comfortable with my mag as any marker I have ever shot, and I think right now the only high end manufactured marker I have not shot yet is a G7

[Dayspring]

It's a privately owned forum. 1st ammendment does NOT apply.

No. I said don't act like an idiot. Big difference.
And it doesn't matter if you have Canadian posters, it only matters where the forum is based, in this case USA.

[VFX_Fenix]

.... Who does AGD sponsor in mainstream tournaments? Oh yea, no one any more. Could this be why almost no one in main stream tournaments shoot mags?

This is a valid point, however even when the E-Mag was making its rounds as a Tourney gun on an AGD team it still wasn't a very popular gun compaired to the Angel/Trix/Timmy. It could just be the area that I grew up playing paintball in, but in the last 8 years I've been playing I've only ever seen two E-Mags in person, and one of them is mine. An E-Cocker was a more common thing to see on my field than a Mag, and continues to be, even when the first E-Conversions were being done with the AC.

I'm sure in the Midwest where Automags call home the E-Mag was a reasonably popular gun, but out here in California, Mags were/are a reasonably uncommon to rare thing to see being fielded by the rec players, much less the Tourney guys.

The reason I don't believe even a Pred II E/X-Mag will make a reasonable resurgance is the gun itself just isn't popular in the tournament paintball community at large as I've experienced it.

WARPED1 is very much on the side of antagonism when it comes to the sometimes Zealous nature of some individuals on these boards. While he may be volotile, he is admittedly a needed member of this community because he calls into question some of the core dogma that resides in every owner's group. Without individuals who are willing to go against the grain of what could be called "common consensus" there is the very real possibility of a more or less healthy discusion turning into "AGD is the greatest thing ever to come across the plains" and the mindless nodding reminicent of cultism. While I'll often disagree with what he says or how he says it, his opinion is still something I'm interested in hearing (okay reading).

Every OG has the common notion that their is "the best" for any number of reasons even if that reasons is "because it's the best for me". People who call into question/challenge the beliefs of others also help to reveal issues and reasons why these beliefs are held as such.

All said and done -

Yes, the E-Mag is a capable tournament gun.
Yes, the Predator board will help bring the software of the gun up to what's considered to be "required" for tournament play.
But the E-Mag will likely never see play time as a tournament gun in any event which is much larger than regional in nature for any reason barring AGD's involvment as a sponsor. The gun just isn't very popular.

[Dayspring]

You realize that with the level 10 (and even the level 7) the on-ball pressure (the actual pressure reaching the ball) is 65psi right?

That's about what some of these other guns put out.

Perhaps getting FACTS straight would help.

I don't care about new boards, sure they keep up, but still are hard on paint. The DevilMag mod even takes out the LX to use eyes, but the gun at high pressures will destroy most tournament paint before it even leaves the breach as the paint used in tournies is usually really thin shelled.

[BD_Paintball]

This coming from the Imp>Mag... ? Come now, I know my mag cost more than a lot of high end markers - but I am just as comfortable with my mag as any marker I have ever shot, and I think right now the only high end manufactured marker I have not shot yet is a G7

B/c it does outperform every legal mech mag, and keep up with X and E mags. And tuna my imp is faster, more efficient, chops less, and COST ALOT LESS then your mag. K thx bye

[Lohman446]

B/c it does outperform every legal mech mag, and keep up with X and E mags. And tuna my imp is faster, more efficient, chops less, and COST ALOT LESS then your mag. K thx bye

Oh... every legal mech... and every legal? electro. I see. so your imp is better than some mags...

There are a lot of high end markers out there right now. Some mags make that cut, a few select custom impulses, Shockers, Matrixes, Angels, etc.

[Tunaman]

You realize that with the level 10 (and even the level 7) the on-ball pressure (the actual pressure reaching the ball) is 65psi right?

That's about what some of these other guns put out.

Perhaps getting FACTS straight would help.

You hit the nail on the head. FACTS! FACTS that refuse to be let into the minds of some who believe they know it all. FACTS that can PROVE that mags can do it AS GOOD or BETTER than most markers out there. FACTS that say BASHING MAGS ion this forum will get you BANNED! Calling mags inferior is BASHING. Stating you agree with Mag bashing will also get you banned. You two guys ready for your permanent vacation? Your unfounded, baseless, factless opinions here mean NOTHING to anyone. Have fun! Catch ya on the SP Forums...NOT!

[hitech]

I'm allowed to have my opinions, and I do have freedom of speech even on a privately owned forum. I did my research, and as long as it is a US based forum, I have constitutional rights!

Care to share you're research? It would make interesting reading (at least I would find it interesting).

[Tunaman]

Care to share you're research? It would make interesting reading (at least I would find it interesting).

Its too late! BuHAHAHAHAHA! They wont be around to read the responses!

[VFX_Fenix]

Oh. and one more thing. Want to put up your SP Marker and some cash(alot of cash) against one of mine? Lets see whos gun is FASTER, Lighter, Chops less, more efficient...and the list goes on. Put your money where your big mouth is...

Tuna throws the Gauntlet to BD_Paintball...

And tuna my imp is faster, more efficient, chops less, and COST ALOT LESS then your mag. K thx bye

And the Gauntlet has been picked-up, looks like we have a duel.

Gentlemen, if you will please state your conditions including a location and time for this matter. If you would each bring a second in the event you are unable to compete and a third party from another Owner's Group in the area of the duel shall be present to oversee this matter of honor.

[minimag03]

If you like your E-mag then use it. Who cares what other people are using. And so what if you have to buy thicker paint, atleast it will be cheaper .

[Caffiend]

I'm aloud to have my opinions

allowed. Stay in school............

*ducks back out of thread while eating popcorn and waiting for the next post*