Has any tried the Apex barrel?

[Jaan]

At first I thought I was on the Coast to Coast AM web site ... but then I noticed it was Ben Tippmann. This might actually work ... although if Art Bell starts touting it forget it lol. Maybe I'll buy one in 5 years if it pans out.

[Blazestorm]

I want this before a 24hr game in washington... I'll rock it on my 05 dragon for sure HAHA

[ScatterPlot]

I'm confused... can we get one now or do we have to wait for 3 years?

[FSU_Paintball]

available starting at the IAO (which is now)

[ScatterPlot]

OIC. So can we get one after IAO at places other than IAO, or is it debuting there and then we wait for stores and all to get it in? I might have missed all this, but do they have a projected cost for this sucker?

[Alpha]

Its got a slider on it that adjusts the level of spin. Light for longer paths, heavy for shorter distances before curving. Basicly, you watch where the balls are going and adjust accordingly with the slider as to where you want it to start curving at, that's your "know" answer. Plus you can change the direction of spin by rotating the tip.

Used to do something similar with the tipman flatline by angling the m98 right and left, drop the FPS to control where it starts curving. This new toy is more simplified in that you dont have to mess with the markers velocity settings to dial in where you want it to start curving at.

-Evil Bob

I understand you can adjust the amoutn of spin, but what you CANT adjust is the place where it starts to spin.

Either the diagrams are Poor choice of discriptive words. Try to be more civil. Army, or its impossible to predict.

For example, lets say the hook begins 30 feet out in the shot.

Well what do I do if I'm 10 feet from the guy I'm shooting at? 40?

You get what I'm saying?

I dont doubt that it curves the pbs, but theres no way you can flip a switch, and make a shot have a90 degree curve and clock someone.

[TDonovan]

I had a flatline a long time ago and hated it. But given the chance I'd pick one of these up just to fool around with it. Certainly an original and interesting idea, who knows, it might really work well.

However, I would be INCREDIBLY pissed if i had someone arcing shots around a bunker without even being exposed. I highly doubt tourny players will adopt this new system thankfully, but it's worth checking out for rec play.

[barrel break]

Hmmm, interesting. I remember we all used to be in awe of my friends flatline playing outlaw, Got it to curve aeound trees, lots of fun, if a little hard to control.

[Rocp15126]

I understand you can adjust the amoutn of spin, but what you CANT adjust is the place where it starts to spin.

Either the diagrams are Poor choice of discriptive words. Try to be more civil. Army, or its impossible to predict.

For example, lets say the hook begins 30 feet out in the shot.

Well what do I do if I'm 10 feet from the guy I'm shooting at? 40?

You get what I'm saying?

I dont doubt that it curves the pbs, but theres no way you can flip a switch, and make a shot have a90 degree curve and clock someone.

I played with the apex a little today at the IAO. Most people couldn't predict where it was going to shoot (there are no markings to tell you). It is pretty cool, but you'd have to play around with it for awhile to really know how to use it right. The kids that were playing with it before me couldn't tell if it was in "neutral" straight shooting, or curving. I'll probably get one to try out....

Rocp15126

[SlartyBartFast]

However, I would be INCREDIBLY pissed if i had someone arcing shots around a bunker without even being exposed. I highly doubt tourny players will adopt this new system thankfully, but it's worth checking out for rec play.

If it works, why not?

What it needs is some way to control it whith your nonshooting hand on a foregrip attached to the system.

That would be cool. Throw a string of paint and adjust curve and direction at the same time.

[Evil Bob]

I understand you can adjust the amoutn of spin, but what you CANT adjust is the place where it starts to spin.

Either the diagrams are Quit quoting this! Army, or its impossible to predict.

For example, lets say the hook begins 30 feet out in the shot.

Well what do I do if I'm 10 feet from the guy I'm shooting at? 40?

You get what I'm saying?

I dont doubt that it curves the pbs, but theres no way you can flip a switch, and make a shot have a90 degree curve and clock someone.

Yes, you're quite right, the diagrams are a bit of an exaggerated over simplification of the product's intended use. It would indeed be extremely cool for the ball to pass a player then take an immediate u-turn and hit them from behind, but that flies in the face of the current laws of physics. It looks like your typical run of the mill marketing spin which is at best loosely based upon reality and at worse completely made up nonsense. At least it gives you an idea of what the product is intended to do despite treading into the realmn of makebelieve.

Where the ball is going to break and start curving depends alot upon the muzzle velocity, the ball's weight, the current air pressure and humidity index, how close you are to sea level, etc. It would be nice to just put a little scale in feet on the slider itself measured in feet so you'd have a guess as to where it's going to break into a spin, but that'll be thrown off if you're say shooting indoor at a lower velocity. This toy is going to be trial and error until you get a good feel for how it's going to perform with a given paint.

-Evil Bob

[FSU_Paintball]

I agree that the marketing is BS with the 90 degree turns and all, but hype is normal in the industry. Anyways, nothing can be worse than those WDP ads that you see every time a new Angel comes out.

And manike already said it works great. I'm sure there's a learning curve... but lots of paintball skills are learned by practice.

[NoForts4Me]

How much are they and where can i get one?

Doro Paintball - $139.99.

I would also be interested in how it affects velocity. I don't see how it can't increase/decrease the velocity depending on how it is "dialed." I would be interested in one to play around with for half that price.

And in defense of the Flatline, my Dad's shoots great. He somehow has it dialed in better than any others I have seen shoot, and is known for picking off people in the woods at great distances (compared to non-flatlined guns) with a couple of shots. He normally only uses about 150-200 rounds in a day of woodsball, and always has a bunch of eliminations. Maybe he got lucky.

[ScatterPlot]

Anybody know of anywhere else that has this thing? I would kinda like to shop around some...

[Ratzo]

If I had some extra cash I'd love to give it a try.
Then test it out at a tourny.