It Can And Will Happen

[Jackel411]

Not to get the paranioa machines going but..

Having filled alot of tanks in my life nitro/co2, most of the problems I see are coming from PMI tanks... nitro tank regs separtating when being screwed off a gun , fill nipple leaking all the time no matter what you do to fix them.. And it only gets works with the co2's... burst disc being cross threaded , there on off tanks labled wrong.. IE on being off and off being onn... there " pretty nickle plating " being too thick and welding the valve into the ASA of a gun , it again being to thick and welding it self into my bulk tank fill rig.. valves separiting from tanks.. and the coup de grace! an on off on a tank failed due to what I like to call " Idiotic Design Flaws " it had an aluminum shaft that had a groove cut into it , that groove had a stainless steel bearing in it to push the pin down in the tank.. that pin.. was brass.. now in metalurgy 101 SS=stonger than aluminum=stonger than brass. The ball in this kid's tank adventually wore down the on off pin and the valve pin to the point it was stuck open.....

That was also the same day I pushed a kid into a wall and made him see stars.. I hear the familiar hiss of a co2 tank in a local indoor (now closed) and it was getting louder and louder.. I told the kid " DUDE STOP YOUVE GOT A PROBLEM WITH YOUR TANK!!!! " Kid just said back "WHAT?" I watched the bottle rocket off the kids gun and luckily into a garbage pail just as I tackled this poor kid into the wall.... mind you room was like 10 foot by 10 foot , small Exclusive staging area , and the kid maybe wieghed 80-90 pounds.. and IM 225 , and bounce at a local club on busy nights..

hehe... tank did a number on the can though.. punched right through a rubber maid container and there tough!

[Beemer]

I haven't been playing paintball that long, but NO compressed air system I've ever heard of-- O2, nitrox, anything-- has random breeches without someone screwing around with it.

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[Lohman446]

Maybe there's something in the design then? An error? Like firestone tires...

Just like Firestone tires it is not a defect in design or what vehicle its on, its a defect in the people using them - running them underinflated and well past the manufacturers stated life expectancy - similar to overfilling / flash filling and ignoring hydro dates.

[frop]

Anyone else see the mythbusters where they shot a scuba & it didn't blow up, it just vented? The C4 part was pretty damn cool though.

[master_alexander]

Anyone else see the mythbusters where they shot a scuba & it didn't blow up, it just vented? The C4 part was pretty damn cool though.

yea i saw that. that was pretty cool...

and i always store my tanks without air, just because i like it cold and i keep it in my closet and itseems to be different temperatures when the door is open or closed and i cant seem to remember to keep it open or closed.

[Lohman446]

yea i saw that. that was pretty cool...

and i always store my tanks without air, just because i like it cold and i keep it in my closet and itseems to be different temperatures when the door is open or closed and i cant seem to remember to keep it open or closed.

HPA tanks should be stored with about 50PSI in them to assure that you do not get enviromental contamination (water build up in this case) inside them. I've heard higher numbers but anything over about 14.6PSI should be plenty

[phantomhitman]

you gotta love how all of them stopped playing paintball because of this. you can tell by the quality craftmanship that java/kingman put into their tanks that this was bound to happen. i have seen many people unscrew the regs instead on the whole tank and get bumrushed to the ground to stop them. oh well, hopefully they can find out what happened, im sure the kids had nothing to do with it

[Cow hunter]

i think this was human error.......probably somthing stupid lke the kids trying to get high from the gas.............

[Muzikman]

Anyone else see the mythbusters where they shot a scuba & it didn't blow up, it just vented? The C4 part was pretty damn cool though.

Was it a steel/aluminum tank?

Also, you have to remember that in paintball we might use smaller tanks, but we also run them at 1500PSI more than a scuba tank.

[wanna-b-ballin']

ummm... you can get high off of co2?

co2 is what you breath out, and so breathing it would basically be hyperventilating. which just makes you lightheaded. thats different from being high isn't it?


and so your supposed to store air tanks with about 15 psi in them? why is that?
is it bad that i keep mine almost full while away from the field for teching/playing purposes?

[Hairball]

ummm... you can get high off of co2?

co2 is what you breath out, and so breathing it would basically be hyperventilating. which just makes you lightheaded. thats different from being high isn't it?


and so your supposed to store air tanks with about 15 psi in them? why is that?
is it bad that i keep mine almost full while away from the field for teching/playing purposes?

Apparently if you don't breathe oxygen for a certain period of time, then start breathing regularly, the effect of oxygen coming back into your system makes you feel high.

And you keep your tank with about 50psi to prevent water buildup in the tank.

[cdacda13]

I saw that on the news.

Apparently if you don't breathe oxygen for a certain period of time, then start breathing regularly, the effect of oxygen coming back into your system makes you feel high.

That is true. The brain contracts when you are not getting oxygen. So, once oxygen gets to the brain, the brain relaxes, and thus, the feeling of being "high"

[ScatterPlot]

"it's like a propane tank."


uhhh... righhht. Except a propane tank has... well, it has propane in it, moron. And she was "mortified" instead of "horrified." So she was embarassed because her kids blew up a tank in their room? It's kinda obvious these people don't know much about basic physics or chemistry... and blaming the tank? I haven't been playing paintball that long, but NO compressed air system I've ever heard of-- O2, nitrox, anything-- has random breeches without someone screwing around with it.

CO2 sublimes normally, so it doesn't take much heat to go from liquid-gas. If they play paintball enough to have their own CO2 tanks sitting around, they should know better than to leave them hanging out by the heater.

http://steveabramo.com/mcb/videos/cbs_tank_burst.wmv

Couple corrections there, trivial things like this bug me-

It's not nitrox. It's not NOS. It's compressed air, MAYBE Nitrogen.

And I might have just misunderstood your point, but everything sublimes naturally, and sublimation is from a solid to a gas. You're probly thinking evaporation.

[Enos Shenk]

co2 is what you breath out, and so breathing it would basically be hyperventilating. which just makes you lightheaded. thats different from being high isn't it?

It really sucks, i know that much. I had a burst disc go out in a 9oz in my friends van one day driving back from the shop. His power windows had been wonky for years, and we were on a busy road.

By the time we managed to get through traffic and pull over, both of us were seeing stars. I was starting to get tunnel vision, so i was probably fairly close to passing out when we managed to bail out of the van.

[frop]

Was it a steel/aluminum tank?

Also, you have to remember that in paintball we might use smaller tanks, but we also run them at 1500PSI more than a scuba tank.

It was an aluminum tank. They had it inside a cargo container & when they blew it up it made a good dent in the container.