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  • TheTramp
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    • Jan 2001
    • 4019

    #16
    Originally posted by Lohman446
    With the hypothetical I can be as morally upstanding as everyone else and say no I wouldn't because...

    Realistically - if it were offered chances are I would be playing
    I have to say that I agree exactly.
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    • MarkM
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      • Jul 2002
      • 2433

      #17
      Just a warning regarding replys to this thread.

      Endorsements by personal exp. or alledged observation of illegal drug taking will not be allowed to stay...already this thread is a couple of replies light.

      On thread topic. Yes I would taken the sponsorship, since I do smoke freebies would be gratefully taken but in reality probably not offered as part of the sponsorship. I doubt Michael Schumacher smokes Marlboro's or Kimi Raikanen smokes West's.
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      • Chronobreak
        Rec Poster
        • Mar 2003
        • 5055

        #18
        lol, glad that mark posted that before i posted...

        i was gonna give some examples of companies i would take as endorsements


        anyways, i dont smoke nor endorse smoking so i would say no, but if the chance did come up i would def think about it...

        hopefully i could take it and get onto a better form of sponsorship that wasnt promoting smoking to minors(you cant say that they wouldnt be if sponsoring p-ball)

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        • OneEyedPimp
          www.fingerinabox.com
          • Mar 2005
          • 253

          #19
          I would, simply because of two reasons:

          1) They are a coperation, they don't force people to smoke

          2)I HATE(With a passion) that truth company.

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          • mandatory
            automagnetic
            • Feb 2005
            • 277

            #20
            Originally posted by OneEyedPimp
            I would, simply because of two reasons:

            1) They are a coperation, they don't force people to smoke

            2)I HATE(With a passion) that truth company.


            Id say no. but i do agree with your location tag: san diego= kommievill

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            • minimag03
              WVU paintball #19
              • Dec 2003
              • 2214

              #21
              I'd say no. I'm against all forms of tobacco. When a 10 year old kid watches my team win with tobacco jerseys on, what do you think he is going to do. He'll connect winning with tobacco use.
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              • AGDlover
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                • Aug 2003
                • 3322

                #22
                a big no over here I've chosen to keep drugs out of my life nomatter what i just dont see a benifit of useing them
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                • tyrion2323
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                  • Dec 2002
                  • 1654

                  #23
                  I think that there are a lot of considerations to be mindful of.

                  How prominent of a display would the company be making? Would the team be called the Marlboro men? Or could it be something different? There are so many things to think about before making the decision.

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                  • FallNAngel
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 1076

                    #24
                    Originally posted by minimag03
                    I'd say no. I'm against all forms of tobacco. When a 10 year old kid watches my team win with tobacco jerseys on, what do you think he is going to do. He'll connect winning with tobacco use.
                    Granted little Jimmy is 10 years old in this example... he'd have to really not think things through to think that. I could see that being the case if it were steroids or some other drug that actually gave some "benefit", but what does tobacco really do for you? I mean, it really offers no benefit (quite the opposite) ... so thinking that someone won because they smoke really doesn't really make sense.

                    This isn't to say he won't want to run out and start smoking so he'd be "cool" like the XYZ team that's sponsored by a tabacco company, but that's a bit different than doing it because he thinks it'll help him win.



                    Having said that, I would say it depends. Generally with sponsorship comes some sort of stipulations attached. For instance, if you get sponsored by JT, you'll probably have to wear their masks (for instance). What would you be doing for the tabacco company? Smoking their cigarettes? 1. That'd be kind of counterproductive, seeing as how they're detrimental to your health 2. I think that at least a good portion of the smokers would take the sponsorship... if for no other reason than the fact that they already smoke... so why not get "paid" to do it?
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                    • slade
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                      • Apr 2004
                      • 3442

                      #25
                      id say yes... however if it was, say, smart parts, id have to say no. i mean, theres evil, and then theres EVIL. sorry i had to say that...

                      actually i probably would say yes. theres so many anti-smoking ads or campaigns or education that everyone already knows that smoking is bad for you. seriously, no one is going to start smoking because they see some team with a logo on their jersey (which is why such sponsorship has not already happened...) however i would only do the sponsorship if the requirement was for logos/banners/whatever. if it involved actually smoking or publically endorsing their product (as in saying to your fans, "try *insert brand here* cigarettes!") i would say no.

                      however if it was a beer sponsorship, even though i dont drink id have to say yes. it would just be funny, and i dont think as many people have a problem with drinking as smoking. that and im sure my team would love the sponsorship hopefully they wouldnt be TOO hung over at practice/tourneys...

                      Originally posted by AGDlover
                      a big no over here I've chosen to keep drugs out of my life nomatter what i just dont see a benifit of useing them
                      this has nothing to do with using them. it has to do with sponsorship by the company.
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                      • TMAXXKING1
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                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1325

                        #26
                        meh

                        Originally posted by Big'n slo
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                        as for my reply to this thread in question

                        not just because i am a HEAVY smoker

                        smokeing has been in the public's eye's for a long time

                        i guess kid's shouldnt watch anything other then blue's clue's and Mr. Rodger's

                        just think about all the red neck's that are into nascar ..

                        i guess no more big family function's at the track there kid's might see a car with marlboro or skoal down the side




                        and i bet if half of you got a sponsor from K-Y you would go and hand out free sample's

                        at bar's with name's like

                        the rainbow room
                        the slippery pickle

                        just my 2 cent's
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                        • magman007
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                          • Jun 2001
                          • 7579

                          #27
                          yea, i would, no questions asked. I smoke, but i dont endorse it to others to use, but its peoples choice. Also, how tight would marlboro jersies or camel jersies look? they have the shnazziest lookin race cars all the time. What about beer companies? heck, MO.com at IAO almost got sponsored by yeungling.



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                          • minimag03
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                            • Dec 2003
                            • 2214

                            #28
                            Originally posted by FallNAngel
                            Granted little Jimmy is 10 years old in this example... he'd have to really not think things through to think that. I could see that being the case if it were steroids or some other drug that actually gave some "benefit", but what does tobacco really do for you? I mean, it really offers no benefit (quite the opposite) ... so thinking that someone won because they smoke really doesn't really make sense.

                            This isn't to say he won't want to run out and start smoking so he'd be "cool" like the XYZ team that's sponsored by a tabacco company, but that's a bit different than doing it because he thinks it'll help him win.
                            Kids look look for hero, idol, or whatever you want to call it. If the person who they look up to is wearing a jersey with Marlboro written all over it, do you think he isn't going to be influenced by that? Yes, he will be. He will think it's cool to use Marlboro, because XYZ team does use it.
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                            • Lohman446
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #29
                              Originally posted by minimag03
                              Kids look look for hero, idol, or whatever you want to call it. If the person who they look up to is wearing a jersey with Marlboro written all over it, do you think he isn't going to be influenced by that? Yes, he will be. He will think it's cool to use Marlboro, because XYZ team does use it.
                              And if he looks at someone, makes a decision something is cool just because its on a sign, and then does something that he has tons of information on about the effects on just because he thinks its cool he's almost as idiotic as the people who are vehemently anti-smoking because they think its a way to be cool too

                              Note: Of course there are other reasons, but it seems to me a lot of people are against smoking because they think theres a "coolness" to blindly following what the commercials tell them
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                              • AGDlover
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                                • Aug 2003
                                • 3322

                                #30
                                Originally posted by slade
                                this has nothing to do with using them. it has to do with sponsorship by the company.
                                Yes and i realise that but even that i dont want to be affilated(sp) with and drug indistruys as well it just doesnt push a positive attitude
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