Tobacco Co. and paintball

[Rather]

Knee jerk simplistic reaction with wording designed for maximum reaction without consideration of what they really mean. What about Bayer Aspirin / Tylenol etc., would you accept a sponsorship from them?

I'm holding out for enzyte. :) :)

[minimag03]

And if he looks at someone, makes a decision something is cool just because its on a sign, and then does something that he has tons of information on about the effects on just because he thinks its cool he's almost as idiotic as the people who are vehemently anti-smoking because they think its a way to be cool too

That "someone" isn't just a normal person to him. That someone is the person he wants to be like. And yes, he will do it if the advertisement makes and impact on him (keep in mind that kids his age are considerably impressionable). I'm sure by his age parents, teachers, siblings, and mentors have told him the effext of use tobacco products. However, does this stop a huge amount of children all over the world from using them? Nope, it doesn't.

[RingOfScale]

I would do it, but I dont/wont smoke personally. I'd take their logo or whatever, but I dont think the logo alone would do it. If people saw you personally smoking in combination with the logos, it might convince some people, but if you were wearing the logos and didnt believe in it, and no one ever saw you smoking personally, I dont think that many people would be convinced.

-rIng

[cdacda13]

Yes, playing for free would be worth it.

[slade]

That "someone" isn't just a normal person to him. That someone is the person he wants to be like. And yes, he will do it if the advertisement makes and impact on him (keep in mind that kids his age are considerably impressionable). I'm sure by his age parents, teachers, siblings, and mentors have told him the effext of use tobacco products. However, does this stop a huge amount of children all over the world from using them? Nope, it doesn't.

im willing to bet the vast majority of kids who start smoking do so because of someone they know personally. not some celebrity. i really dont see any 10+ year old saying "oh my god, that player has a marlboro patch on his jersey! ive gotta be cool like him and start smoking!!"

[behemoth]

Comon, are kids that retarded?

What could possibly be SO COOL that you'd wanna smoke?

"Look Johnny, Tim's getting laid because he smokes like a chimney!"

No.

[AGDlover]

Comon, are kids that retarded?
"Look Johnny, Tim's getting laid because he smokes like a chimney!"
.

LMFAO

[minimag03]

The bottomline is that teams are role models to a lot of kids. Do you want your kids role model to support tobacco companys? Would you as a parent think "It's ok for my child to look up to them even though that could influence them to use tobacco."

[behemoth]

if the kid is influenced by someone with "Marlboro" on thier jersey, they deserve cancer.

I mean, what the hell? If my hero's wore "SMOKE CRACK KIDDIES!" on their jerseys, i wouldnt go smoke crack.

[CodeMA]

I see no problem with it.... Parents dont like it? Tell your kids not to smoke, threaten them, blah blah blah..... Its not the general public, big goverment, or the millitary to raise your kids, its out there, there going to have to deal with it at some point..... stop relying on a few groups to say there bad and do it yourself in fasion thats actualy going to matter


Yes... I would happly accept cash from a Tabacco company, I dont smoke regularly, I get enough second hand from family and friends.... Its a personal choice and as long as your not breathing your loved carbon minoxide into some poor old ladies(used as an example) face causeing her due stress or some pregnant chick... who cares? Be responsible.... Same goes for useing ANY brand of paintball equipment, car, etc.....deal with it people

To add.... Any truely corp. sponsors is a big step IMO into "legitimizeing" paintball.... The Xbox and Bawls bunkers are a step also....on that note...Bawls would be an ideal sponsor too :P


Well Idolized paintball folk arnt the most savery people in the world..... Tabacco would be a rather positive choice compared to actualy partakeing in activties indorced by some of the top followed players currently...


Enough ranting... bottem line...dont worry about kids, its not our job... its there parents..... Be responsible and there are no woes...

[peewee]

I voted no, but in truth I'd love to get money out of "big tobacco," maybe a little pay back for me & my family having to watch my Dad starve to death due to throat & stomach cancer caused by smoking. It sucks that my kids don't know my Dad, the oldest had a few years but my youngest was about ten months old. Personally I despise smoking & I was a smoker for ten plus years. I can't condone its use & don't want it advertised where my kids are participating in sporting events. Someone stated that they dislike the truth company, I can't understand why. Sounds like ignorant bravado to me.
In regard to other drug companies I gotta ask when was the last time Aleve or Tylenol killed someone & how many? Its funny other drugs like bextra & phen phen get pulled off the market after one maybe two people die, shouldn't tobacco?

[Lohman446]

The bottomline is that teams are role models to a lot of kids. Do you want your kids role model to support tobacco companys? Would you as a parent think "It's ok for my child to look up to them even though that could influence them to use tobacco."

You're argument gets weaker and weaker the more you attempt to defend it or elaborate. While it may be a wonderful personal choice what you are now insinuating is that all role models should be perfectly acceptable to every parent. And yes, it is ok for a child to look up to someone even though there are flaws in them - as long as the child is well educated on the effects of decisions they made. And yes, children are very well educated, judging by todays ad campaigns if children are as gullible as you make out, they must think that the cigs are hidden so that they don't look at them, because looking at them can cause death...

[hitech]

And if he looks at someone, makes a decision something is cool just because it's on a sign...

In most teenagers the pressure to fit in is almost overwhelming. Add to that the belief that they are invincible and what's to stop them from trying it?

[Lohman446]

In most teenagers the pressure to fit in is almost overwhelming. Add to that the belief that they are invincible and what's to stop them from trying it?

Look at the responses of teenagers on this board - is smoking or being vehemently opposed to smoking the pressure they are under today?

Edit: For the record, as long as it is legal, I could care less if they try it. If they are illegally obtaining it, and I realize they are, than there are other things to look into that are not advertising related, such as who is breaking the law allowing them to obtain it.

[hitech]

...is smoking or being vehemently opposed to smoking the pressure they are under today?

Well, I don't really know. It's peer pressure that counts the most, by far. None of my peers are teenagers anymore...