how do you build a painball gun?

[buzzboy]

You can do it the above stated ways or you can visit www.spudtech.com www.xinventions.com or www.spudfiles.com and you will find some great paintball guns. And if you go to the spud tech forum there are many austrailian spudgunners with some pretty sick guns. No paintball guns that I know of though.

[slade]

You can do it the above stated ways or you can visit www.spudtech.com www.xinventions.com or www.spudfiles.com and you will find some great paintball guns. And if you go to the spud tech forum there are many austrailian spudgunners with some pretty sick guns. No paintball guns that I know of though.

the kid at xinventions had a pump pvc marker, but IIRC it shot through plywood (im guessing even if you got the velocity down it would still be very inconsistent) ran off a household tank, so its not exactly useable in a game, plus... have you ever looked down a pvc pipe? itd have horrible precision, and most likely lots of barrel breaks. that and, well, its pump.

[buzzboy]

[spudgun speal] Actually it is very safe to use spudguns in paintball. They are used all the time in large scenario games for gun implacements and for tanks. This means that mostly people use these guns to take out tanks shotgunlike or they shoot a nerf football at the enemy. It is only safe to use against people when being used like a mortar, not directly aimed at them.[/spudgun speal]

[Glickman]

you do realize its going to cost you thousands of dollars in equipment (if not hundreds of thousands), lots of raw materials, and a lot of skill to build an adequate and useable one, right? then you have to get co2/hpa and get it filled (its gonna take a while of blowing on that fill nipple to fill your tank... wait that came out wrong)

how bout this?

1) learn to be a hacker.
2) take a crash course in CNC programming.
3) learn to disarm security equipment.
4) break into manufacturer XXXX at night, hack into their computer systems to find the code for whatever marker youre interested in.
5) run the machines, hope no one notices. put together your new marker. i hope you didnt pick anything high end, cause its gonna be hard to make your own board or noid.

this may be true for a production of one marker, but anyone could make one out of metal for probably ~500-600 if you use a mill to machine parts custom. of course it would be alot of time to do so.

and why the hell do you need to be a hacker? obviously someone didnt see my poll on "What Is A Real Hacker?" thats also considering that he wants to build a electro, and you forgot learning a new assembler language.

You dont need to be a "hacker" as you put it
You dont need a CNC machine
You dont need to be a criminal
You dont need to learn an assembler language



1. Learn to use a mill
2. Borrow a mill at school or college
3. Lots of Scrap metal
4. Misc valves (hammer, bolt, and ect can be milled)


im amazed at how people think you need a flux compacitor to make a paintball marker. that and they dont know what a hackers is


its only the last part that makes me agitated. when i said there were no wrong answers to what a hacker is... i lied


edit: oh, forgot one thing...


BAM!
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Your best bet is to just buy parts on ebay or something similar. Worse comes to worse, they are the parts to a school pneumatic project.

actually.... they are.

[Lohman446]

You dont need to be a criminal

If you are building one to illegally sell or use in Australia then yes, you do need to be a criminal to do it.

[Glickman]

If you are building one to illegally sell or use in Australia then yes, you do need to be a criminal to do it.

technicalities my dear friend.


just like my rabbit after that experiment.


i just had a brain-fart... isnt it legal to use pumps? i believe i saw a pump-kit for a 98 custom that was made for use in australia because they DID allow pumps. whether or not this is still the case is beyond me, but that would open up the options of...

PUMP-IONS!!!




or the generic phantom or sl-68 blah blah blah




edit: lookie what i found



(Off of [URL=http://www.billspaintball.com/law/law.php]

Federal Laws

As of 30/04/2004 it is now legal to import Semiautomatic Paintball markers as well as Pump action ones.

• You must have a B709A certificate to Import a marker or marker parts.
  
• Hoppers are considered Magazines so you need a B709A for them as well.
  
• Electric triggers and safety devices are legal providing they meet customs testing.
  
• Full Auto and Burst mode are illegal.
  
• All markers must have effective trigger guards.
  
• Air Systems do not need a B709A, however they must be stamped with Workcover compliance else they cannot be legally filled in Australia.
  
• You must still comply with all of your states laws regarding markers.
  

While on the face of it, it seems easy to import a marker yourself I would strongly advise against it. There are numerous traps for the unwary that will result in your pride and joy being destroyed.

Best way is to import only through a licenced dealer, they know the regulations in detail and will ensure that you receive your marker.

Last edited by Glickman; 10-14-2005, 09:55 AM.

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10-14-2005, 11:49 AM

..Considering MacDev is an Australian company and they make the Cyborg...

i hope they like cyborgs then, because according to the laws posted that is ther only choice. hopefully they can still go to a store and buy other guns.

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10-14-2005, 02:19 PM

this may be true for a production of one marker, but anyone could make one out of metal for probably ~500-600 if you use a mill to machine parts custom. of course it would be alot of time to do so.

and why the hell do you need to be a hacker? obviously someone didnt see my poll on "What Is A Real Hacker?" thats also considering that he wants to build a electro, and you forgot learning a new assembler language.

You dont need to be a "hacker" as you put it
You dont need a CNC machine
You dont need to be a criminal
You dont need to learn an assembler language



1. Learn to use a mill
2. Borrow a mill at school or college
3. Lots of Scrap metal
4. Misc valves (hammer, bolt, and ect can be milled)


im amazed at how people think you need a flux compacitor to make a paintball marker. that and they dont know what a hackers is


its only the last part that makes me agitated. when i said there were no wrong answers to what a hacker is... i lied


edit: oh, forgot one thing...


BAM!
-------------------------------------------------------

Your best bet is to just buy parts on ebay or something similar. Worse comes to worse, they are the parts to a school pneumatic project.

actually.... they are.

perhaps you missed the fact that the latter half of my post was a joke.

anyone asking a paintball forum (with a total of 2 posts) how to build a paintball gun most likely does not have what it takes to do so. i was trying to get that point across. hes just a kid hoping (for some reason or another) that there is an easy solution, without actually being willing to put substantial effort into making a working marker.

and yes, yes i saw your thread. and yes, yes i had seen and heard the same thing about the term "hacker" a dozen times over the past few years. language is dynamic. the word "hacker" has more than one definition. if youre part of the group who gets annoyed at being associated with the "hackers" that gain illegal access, go ahead and say that, tell people that theres another type of "hacker" which is respectable and doesnt do anything illegal, but you cant remove the definition of "hacker" that youre complaining about.

and of course i know you dont need a CNC machine to make a paintball gun. you need a CNC machine to do coordinated multi-axis motion, or to create multiple copies of one product. as i said, it was a joke. you could make a paintball gun with anything from a pvc tube and your mouth, 12 grams and copper tubing, to a $5000 mill and block of aluminum.

which brings up the point that you cant use scrap aluminum. you need at least one block of aluminum 1" thick and maybe 4" by 8" just for the body, and i dont think youd find that in many scrap piles. especially if youre hoping for 6061.

anything worthwhile to make would take much more time than the average person is willing to put in, and more knowledge on paintball markers than, im guessing, this person has. if you want to make anything semiautomatic, not pump, it would take a very long time to make a quality product. youll be spending long hours on a mill and lathe. yes, you will need a lathe. i believe you left that out. even if you made a pump marker it would take quite a while. unless you are going to make a quick pvc mockup.

yes, i know you dont need to be a "hacker", whichever definition you choose, to build a paintball marker. yes, i know that you dont need a "flux compacitor" to build a paintball gun. yes, i know that a "flux compacitor" doesnt exist. isnt it supposed to be "flux capacitor" anyway?

State Laws

State	Legal	Minimum Age	Marker Ownership	Last Updated
ACT	Y	18	Semi + Pump	2004-03-04
NSW	Y	18	Semi + Pump	2005-03-25
NT	N	0	No	2004-03-04
QLD	Y	15	Semi + Pump	2005-02-02
SA	Y	14	Semi + Pump	2004-03-04
TAS	N	0	No	2004-03-04
VIC	Y	18	Semi + Pump	2004-03-04
WA	Y	18	Semi + Pump	2005-02-01

xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel 68/30 PE nitro tank cp unimount halo B

[phantomhitman]

..Considering MacDev is an Australian company and they make the Cyborg...

i hope they like cyborgs then, because according to the laws posted that is ther only choice. hopefully they can still go to a store and buy other guns.

[slade]

this may be true for a production of one marker, but anyone could make one out of metal for probably ~500-600 if you use a mill to machine parts custom. of course it would be alot of time to do so.

and why the hell do you need to be a hacker? obviously someone didnt see my poll on "What Is A Real Hacker?" thats also considering that he wants to build a electro, and you forgot learning a new assembler language.

You dont need to be a "hacker" as you put it
You dont need a CNC machine
You dont need to be a criminal
You dont need to learn an assembler language



1. Learn to use a mill
2. Borrow a mill at school or college
3. Lots of Scrap metal
4. Misc valves (hammer, bolt, and ect can be milled)


im amazed at how people think you need a flux compacitor to make a paintball marker. that and they dont know what a hackers is


its only the last part that makes me agitated. when i said there were no wrong answers to what a hacker is... i lied


edit: oh, forgot one thing...


BAM!
-------------------------------------------------------

Your best bet is to just buy parts on ebay or something similar. Worse comes to worse, they are the parts to a school pneumatic project.

actually.... they are.

perhaps you missed the fact that the latter half of my post was a joke.

anyone asking a paintball forum (with a total of 2 posts) how to build a paintball gun most likely does not have what it takes to do so. i was trying to get that point across. hes just a kid hoping (for some reason or another) that there is an easy solution, without actually being willing to put substantial effort into making a working marker.

and yes, yes i saw your thread. and yes, yes i had seen and heard the same thing about the term "hacker" a dozen times over the past few years. language is dynamic. the word "hacker" has more than one definition. if youre part of the group who gets annoyed at being associated with the "hackers" that gain illegal access, go ahead and say that, tell people that theres another type of "hacker" which is respectable and doesnt do anything illegal, but you cant remove the definition of "hacker" that youre complaining about.

and of course i know you dont need a CNC machine to make a paintball gun. you need a CNC machine to do coordinated multi-axis motion, or to create multiple copies of one product. as i said, it was a joke. you could make a paintball gun with anything from a pvc tube and your mouth, 12 grams and copper tubing, to a $5000 mill and block of aluminum.

which brings up the point that you cant use scrap aluminum. you need at least one block of aluminum 1" thick and maybe 4" by 8" just for the body, and i dont think youd find that in many scrap piles. especially if youre hoping for 6061.

anything worthwhile to make would take much more time than the average person is willing to put in, and more knowledge on paintball markers than, im guessing, this person has. if you want to make anything semiautomatic, not pump, it would take a very long time to make a quality product. youll be spending long hours on a mill and lathe. yes, you will need a lathe. i believe you left that out. even if you made a pump marker it would take quite a while. unless you are going to make a quick pvc mockup.

yes, i know you dont need to be a "hacker", whichever definition you choose, to build a paintball marker. yes, i know that you dont need a "flux compacitor" to build a paintball gun. yes, i know that a "flux compacitor" doesnt exist. isnt it supposed to be "flux capacitor" anyway?