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  • Skoad
    Registered User
    • Feb 2002
    • 3265

    #1

    Black oxide a classic valve

    I don't know why I never thought of this. Anyone know if it would work?
  • wanna-b-ballin'
    Pump Player
    • Jan 2005
    • 1380

    #2
    never heard of it. i know the color black, and i know what oxidation is, but how do you do it?
    upgrade fund: $145

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    • Skoad
      Registered User
      • Feb 2002
      • 3265

      #3
      Process basically is blackening steel/iron. From what I know theres a hot and cold way to do it (basically just using chemicals). You know those black screws you find laying around sometimes? Those probably are black oxide coated.



      Its found on a lot of tools, knives, firearms, etc. Automag actually used to come with some black oxide steel screws, for gripframe to rail and foregrip to rail.

      I don't know a whole lot of specifics about it, so maybe someone else will know.
      Last edited by Skoad; 10-26-2005, 04:14 PM.

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      • Automaggot68

        #4
        If i recall, I think JoshK Posted something along these lines a few months ago.
        If it wasn't that, then it was talking about coloring parts the same way they 'blue' a firearm.

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        • mobsterboy
          Mr.StealYoDallara

          • Aug 2004
          • 2371

          #5
          no no no derek, that was an article about husbands abusing their spouses and making them cook dinner and be good little gender-weak slaves. the one you are looking for is about martha...
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          • slade
            Carpe Noctem
            • Apr 2004
            • 3442

            #6
            Originally posted by mobsterboy
            no no no derek, that was an article about husbands abusing their spouses and making them cook dinner and be good little gender-weak slaves. the one you are looking for is about martha...
            you called?





            im sure it would work fine, as long as you could only coat the outside. im sure the process would mess up the tolerances of the valve too much.
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            • wanna-b-ballin'
              Pump Player
              • Jan 2005
              • 1380

              #7
              Originally posted by mobsterboy
              no no no derek, that was an article about husbands abusing their spouses and making them cook dinner and be good little gender-weak slaves. the one you are looking for is about martha...
              .........

              anywho.. i see what it is now. but would it work on stainless? i'v noticed that those screws rust. i gave up on those screws because rusty screws just takes away from the beauty of a gun. and the head rounds out too easily. i switched over to SS screws.
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              • sniper1rfa
                (Not a Wang Force member.)
                • Aug 2001
                • 1107

                #8
                Originally posted by slade
                you called?





                im sure it would work fine, as long as you could only coat the outside. im sure the process would mess up the tolerances of the valve too much.

                Nah, steel black doesnt change the tolerances at all, really. Its not a finish, not a paint or oxide layer or anything. Like blueing steel.
                "The Fine Print: Discontinue use if your eyeballs suddenly get way smaller."

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                • Automaggot68

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mobsterboy
                  no no no derek, that was an article about husbands abusing their spouses and making them cook dinner and be good little gender-weak slaves. the one you are looking for is about martha...
                  I'm still trying to figure out why you think my name is Derek.

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                  • Indignant

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mobsterboy
                    no no no derek, that was an article about husbands abusing their spouses and making them cook dinner and be good little gender-weak slaves. the one you are looking for is about martha...

                    Whatever Cheryl, just make me my sandwhich and get back in the cage.

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                    • Glickman
                      *Insert Witty Phrase*
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2673

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Indignant
                      Whatever Cheryl, just make me my sandwhich and get back in the cage.

                      i dont know why...

                      but now someone made a mess in my pants...

                      SMILEY ORGY!!!

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                      • KayleAGD
                        Master tech.
                        • Nov 2000
                        • 582

                        #12
                        A few years back AGD Tried some coatings on the mainbodies that looked like parkerizing like you would see on firearms. There were only one or two of them produced and looked real good but they could never get the production runs to match the sample quality.
                        As far as the screw, it is ferris and the iron makes the coating stick. the valves being non-ferris makes manganese phospate not work.
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                        • Severe
                          Leader of Lililputions
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 315

                          #13
                          I looked at cold black oxidizing a while back and never followed through on it. I wanted a way to refinish my mag that would be more durable that basic paint.

                          After a long search I found Duracoat. Now, I'll admit I haven't used it yet. I'm still saving up for what I want to do. But everything I've ready about Duracoat tells me it's harder than Parkerizing and extremely durable. You would need to mask the body depending on how thick you apply it.

                          Duracoat is currently distributed through http://www.lauerweaponry.com/ and can be applied in almost any color. It can also be laid over itself to create some very good camouflage patterns.

                          Best thing is, it's very cost effective and can be done by pretty much anyone.

                          Check it out. It might be the solution you're looking for.
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                          • Muzikman
                            Everything AGD
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 6229

                            #14
                            Originally posted by KayleAGD
                            A few years back AGD Tried some coatings on the mainbodies that looked like parkerizing like you would see on firearms. There were only one or two of them produced and looked real good but they could never get the production runs to match the sample quality.
                            As far as the screw, it is ferris and the iron makes the coating stick. the valves being non-ferris makes manganese phospate not work.

                            You are not talking about the Black Nickel / Chrome bodies are you?

                            Like this;

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                            • slade
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 3442

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sniper1rfa
                              Nah, steel black doesnt change the tolerances at all, really. Its not a finish, not a paint or oxide layer or anything. Like blueing steel.
                              well ano isnt a coat or anything, it hardly messes with the tolerances, but you cant re-ano a mag valve. or do the tolerances change during the stripping process?

                              wait... you said it isnt oxide? then why is it called "black oxide"...?
                              xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                              68/30 PE nitro tank
                              cp unimount
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