Great, more morons to ruin the sport. (world cup story)

[Lohman446]

I understand the idea that justice is very often how much you can afford. Remember, this was not punching someone in the face on the street, but doing so in the game. I would at least get the sponsors attention (even if I ultimately lost).

[KRAKMT]

But the sponsor will argue this was not part of the game- "it was an intentional act by a very dispicable person that we had no way of knowing would act sooo inapropriately. We have no way to know or to stop some deranged criminal. Ya ya a criminal is who he is and should be punished for his bad behavior- and we nolonger sanction or sponsor such dasterdly acts."

But even if you had a creative lawyer to get to the sponsor- how much is on the line- the pain and suffering the refs received- over and above the pain that they received in every game? It would be very hard to convince the jury you should have a boat load for a guy that was overshot more than he signed up for. So you would be into the nominal damages or token amount and then have a bunch o attorneys fees to fight for.

Is there a criminal case- definately. Dependant on the victims willingness to cooporate.
Is there a civil case battery case against the players- definately- intentional tort.
Is there a civil case against the sponsor- would depend on what they new or should have known- what would a reasonable person believe.
Would someone bring the civil case- doubtful. Like they say a principle and a subway token will get you a ride on subway. Without the token you just walk with your principles.

[Muzikman]

Like I mentioned the sponsors are generally, not responsible for the intentional torts of others- just as your employer is generally not responsible if you punch someone on the street. (unless they new or should have known your proclivity to do harm).
So in order to get to the pockets (sponsors) the underlying behavior must be a negligence case- the players failed to act in a reasonable prudent behavior and the sponsors were negligent in training or overseeing the players.

Just curious though, if I was at work and went to a client, walked over to him/her and knocked him/her out. I know I could/would be charged, but could the company I work for also since they sent me there?

This is not the same as me leaving work and knocking someone out in the street such as you discribe.

[KRAKMT]

Would they be responsible for knocking the person out? generally, not. They are not responsible for your intentional torts.

Would they be responsible if they knew or had reason to believe you were a psycho? then possibly. Now don't take this as legal advice if you are thinking about committing a tort. I don't necessarily practice in this area and I am wayyy over simplifing it.
But without cracking a book and without reading cases from your area- that is the general rule.

Now the negligence cases are more often the case- employee is driving and hits another motorist.
Was the employee driving on a work related issue?
How about the short stop off at his own house and then gets in an accident.
Many cases with these scenarios.

But the general rule is employers are not responsible for intentional torts. Might look up some of the postal employee cases and see what the claims were.

Just curious though, if I was at work and went to a client, walked over to him/her and knocked him/her out. I know I could/would be charged, but could the company I work for also since they sent me there?

This is not the same as me leaving work and knocking someone out in the street such as you discribe.

[Lohman446]

But the sponsor will argue this was not part of the game- "it was an intentional act by a very dispicable person that we had no way of knowing would act sooo inapropriately. We have no way to know or to stop some deranged criminal. Ya ya a criminal is who he is and should be punished for his bad behavior- and we nolonger sanction or sponsor such dasterdly acts."

But even if you had a creative lawyer to get to the sponsor- how much is on the line- the pain and suffering the refs received- over and above the pain that they received in every game? It would be very hard to convince the jury you should have a boat load for a guy that was overshot more than he signed up for. So you would be into the nominal damages or token amount and then have a bunch o attorneys fees to fight for.

Is there a criminal case- definately. Dependant on the victims willingness to cooporate.
Is there a civil case battery case against the players- definately- intentional tort.
Is there a civil case against the sponsor- would depend on what they new or should have known- what would a reasonable person believe.
Would someone bring the civil case- doubtful. Like they say a principle and a subway token will get you a ride on subway. Without the token you just walk with your principles.

They called themselves Psycho circus and you did not question there mental stability? And I agree, aside from upsetting the sponsor, you might not get a ton - then again, a lot of these cases are gambles anyways I assume.

[Muzikman]

Krakmt,

Ya know, it's good that a discussion can even stay civil when a lawyer steps in. Thank you. I honestly mean that.

We need more threads like this on AO. Just wish it wasn't about bad stuff happening in our sport.