Originally posted by Boski51
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Pump play is on the rise. Also, There are more and more "Mech Only" tournys popping up. It'll probably never go mainstream again, but people understand its fun to go back to the roots of the game. Thats how I enjoy to play anyway...
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hmm, golden age....Sometime before PBnation began, possibly spanning back to the creation of an assisted hopper.RAWR
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not sure when the golden age was but it isn't now. look at how people act during games:
cheating, wipeing, shooting hot, over shooting, playing on and my favroit the marker toss.
now i am not just talking about tourny play us big game players are guilty too. yes there has always been that guy who broke the rules now it is rampet. it paintball is to have a 2nd golden age we as players need to clean up our act as a whole.
sorry i think the dancing naner is cool
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I started playing around 2002. Wood games were the for us then. One of my friends have a Spyder Shutter with 16 inch barrel; we were all amazed by it
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I often think about the days when it was almost all mechs and the few electros that were out didn't shoot very fast. I wish I would have been invloved then because you needed more skill than equipment.Comment
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imagin going from splatmasters to simi autos talk about a rushComment
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I love this thred. brings back all the memorys. I started playing when I was 14 and I am 22 now, and I remamber getting lit-up by an automag on my virgin game I have loved them ever since. I remember when double trigger was weird. I remeber when you went to a field and every one came and said hi and if you would liek to play with them. I remeber when the new guy was treaded as a student and not a plague. that was the golden age to me.
all gone
and if a second one is due, I fear it is not going to be even close to the first.Comment
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Can I make a point that no one will like?
If you are like me and posted about how we liked paintball prior to it's current decline (If you feel that way). There is something we can do about it.
Do the exact opposite of those players whom you can't stand. Don't overshoot, don't cheat, play for the fun of it, help the little kids or noobs, help the old guy playing with his kids, treat your fellow players as friends.
just a thought.
Paintball is a much better game than it is a sport-IMHO. It should be treated as such.
Just my 2 cents.
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my first game was a work related outing. we used to have blue fishing trips, but only 4 people showed up at the last one. a good friend and coworker shows me an ad for paintball in the back of a local free paper. he said why dont we do this instead of the fishing trip this year? we talked the boss into it. we had a 95% turnout and some brought friends and family. it was raining so we went to their indoor field. it was in a 5000 ft2 basement of an old woolworths. everything was made of plywood. it was dark dirty dingy and smelled. there was a strobelight and guns and roses blaring all through the place. smoke machines. nothing but the sound of balls hitting plywood and loud rock and roll. we signed our waivers, my heart skipped a beat when i got to the injury or DEATH part. i grabbed my prolite and smelly rental mask and took my side of the basement with 1/2 my coworkers. the airhorn blasted and off we went. i was instantly hooked to the point of sickness. i remember seeing masks coming out of the darkness as i tried to go to sleep that night.
al(my coworker) and i spent the winter lunchbreaks in our truck reading apg and figuring out how we would save enough scratch to buy a spider package each from general joes. wondering how people spent 500+ for mags and cockers. this was 1997. now i have a mag, a pump and an electro. i use them all. nothing beats the thrill of a one on one in an abandoned factory with pumps and only 20 rounds.
these were the golden years for me.
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Could it be that the fields we played at went bunk? My first experience was pretty good and had lots of fun. As I progressed the regulars, tourney players and advanced newbs got more and more painfull to be around. So I moved fields and found a place that was serious about the game and not just what the bottom line looked like. Are there any fields out there that uphold the spirit of the game and do what they can to keep things moving in a positive direction? Maybe there's a golden age occuring at a field near you, or maybe one of us needs to open thier own field. Just some thoughts.Comment
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The Golden Years were the years before they invented Speed Ball, and you actually had to use your mind, as much as your trigger finger, to flank somebody, or use cover effectively.
The Golden Age ended when woods ball ended as the primary tourney format.Comment
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Well speedball players, what do you think? It sounds like electros and Speedball ruined paintball for alot on this thread.
What are your thoughts? What about speedball and electros ruined the game.
A point that no one has brought up is that kids ruined paintball. A friend of mine in the industry and I were talking about letting kids under 18 buy markers and paint helped the industry BIG TIME, however, they also changed the game and the way it is played and marketed. Some of those changes were NOT very good for the game. The game went from a game for adults to a kid's game.
What do you think?
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OK I definately smell another woodsball/speedball flame war coming on. So just remember, if it happens.. I so called it.
Anyhoo, to address the speedball issue I think on paper, speedball is a great thing. It's a nice fast-paced, short-lasting match which requires you to make split second decisions. Personally, I rarely play it and love to romp around in my local 'outlaw' woods field. We always go back to our roots... the only markers you see are 'mags, 98's, and pumps.
It's hard to find out where to place the blame on the negative parts of present-day paintball, but remember you can't just blame one person/product/style. It's just as ignorant as thinking all the world's terrorism will be eradicated if Osama bin Laden were to be captured. It's just excessive (and boy do I mean excessive) tunnel-vision and brings a new definition to the word 'naive'.
Also, it would probably cause Bush to invade the Smart Parts factory.. but that's a different rant for a different day.
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Originally posted by Vicious6
Speedball was created in the hope that the mainstream X-Games would pick it up, as you could actually see the action on TV, and in woods play, the object was not to be seen, and having a cameraman standing over your position would often end up in a stray shot to the cameraman's groin....."by accident".
The problem is that it turned a 20-30 minute game, which required plans, tactics, stealth, and coordination, using at most, 6-800 rounds, and that was if you were on a really open field, into a game where you simply pull the trigger from starting whistle to the end, hoping somebody will stick a knee out into your stream of fire.
Speedball was great for gun makers, who could now charge $200 to splash anodize their guns, and for paint manufacturers, who get paid by the miss, not the hit.
It was not great for the long run of fun paintball.Comment
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How has speedball ruined woodsball? If you don't like speedball, don't play it. I play some speedball, but most weekends you can find me out playing (and/or running...) the UMass field, shooting people in the woods. Sure, a good amount of the tourny/speedball crowd are a bunch of loudmouthed losers - but how does that change woodsball? There might be a couple at your local woods field, but you probably could have found a couple before the first air bunker was ever inflated.
All-mech tournaments would be pretty sweet, though. Anyone ever thought of the idea of a "vintage tournament"? Like, all pre-1995 markers or whatever. Could be cool... (EDIT: And I could still use my Minimag. Sweet.)Comment
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