Why I won't be getting an Ion.

[Migz]

Uhh--- Are you talking about the Ion still? It may have a retail of $300. But they can be had for $220-$240 BNIB. And seriously what do you expect for that much? Is a $20,000 economy car going to perform anywhere near as nice as a $200,000 Enzo?

No but would you still complain if you 20,000 econ box car broke down the same week you bought it and would you still recommend it to everyone to go out and buy the same car. I think not. Just because it cheap that doesn't mean it shouldn't be reliable. And besides unless money grows on trees where you live. The last time I checked 200 + dollars is quite a bit of money. Heck a 100 if you ask me is still quite a bit of money.

[Lohman446]

No but would you still complain if you 20,000 econ box car broke down the same week you bought it and would you still recommend it to everyone to go out and buy the same car. I think not. Just because it cheap that doesn't mean it shouldn't be reliable. And besides unless money grows on trees where you live. The last time I checked 200 + dollars is quite a bit of money. Heck a 100 if you ask me is still quite a bit of money.

You realize that most new cars undergo two inspections prior to being delivered to the buyer at the dealership (including QC at the factory) and a vast number of "minor" things are fixed during those right? Paintball markers do not get the same attention. Also, many many new cars hvae to go back for minor or major items during there warranty period.

I do agree though, that QC in paintball, in general, sucks.

[Pha|anx]

You realize that most new cars undergo two inspections prior to being delivered to the buyer at the dealership (including QC at the factory) and a vast number of "minor" things are fixed during those right? Paintball markers do not get the same attention. Also, many many new cars hvae to go back for minor or major items during there warranty period.

I do agree though, that QC in paintball, in general, sucks.

Bad analogy... My fault.

So true about the QC, especially with Ions. Mass produced to appease a hype anticipated public.

[WARPED1]

It's not the gun, it's user error. I've had my Ion since the week before they released to the public, it's been used every weekend since then, nothing broke ever. And I only had a few barrel breaks(great eyes), and 12 breach when I fergetted to turn my eyes on .

[oneworld]

well. i had:
a 2k2 timmy. no work to well.
a dm4. worked ok. had one flaw after some use.
a mag. completly went to hell on me.
and a race cocker. it was broke. but thanks to me life time warranty. i got it fixed.

never had an ion. but i think all guns go ad sooner or l8er. and i lubed mine after every use. and was very good with them.... i havent even shot an ion yet

and i dont know how relieable they are. . . but all guns break. but it doesnt stop most of us from buying them..

just my 15 yearold 2 cents

[BD_Paintball]

alot of the times a gun goes down is b/c the person that is using it does not know what he/she is doing. not the guns fault, its the users fault.

[Bejita]

I'll buy one.........

[dahoeb]

well. i had:
a 2k2 timmy. no work to well.
a dm4. worked ok. had one flaw after some use.
a mag. completly went to hell on me.
and a race cocker. it was broke. but thanks to me life time warranty. i got it fixed.

never had an ion. but i think all guns go ad sooner or l8er. and i lubed mine after every use. and was very good with them.... i havent even shot an ion yet

and i dont know how relieable they are. . . but all guns break. but it doesnt stop most of us from buying them..

just my 15 yearold 2 cents

congrats on your 1,000th post.

yes i have nothing useful to contribute to this thread.

[yakitori]

please stop pretending that the Ion just stops working for some reason. Im sure the reason is simple. Heres a scenario.

In a game one time my Ion wouldnt fire the marker was on, the eyes were on, my halo was on and new batteries and everything. Turned the eyes off for sec, and was able to dry fire. So I went to the loader. Is my drive cone broke on my halo? Nope. WTF. I took my halo out, and I noticed that one of the orings in my feedneck had been torn and was blocking balls from being fed. Oh ya, the ION is a total POS. How hard was that fix.

Ive not heard of regulators just "stop" working or "going out". I have heard of them being no so consistent and getting some shootdown.

Could it have been an eye wire that got disconnected? A low battery will also cause the gun not to shoot. ANd the ones that are supplied w/ the gun are well short of great.

Change the settings on the board back to stock settings. 52 blinks for dwell, 0 on rof, semi auto.

PPl just dont know how to troubleshoot and use an electro, so they say that it stops working cause its "bad electronics" or "a bad reg" or "shoddy QC". 99% of the time its user error. ITs a battery most of the time. Is that SPs fault? Clean and relube your reg if you think its not doing well. Look in the manual, it shows you how to to it.

Tell your friend not to be an electro noob and troubleshoot the damn marker and 9 times outta 10 its a quick fix.

[Lohman446]

Ion QC for some time sucked - no way around it. They had various people assembling them who were not normal assemblers, and testing was shotgun at best..

However, that being said, I know of at least one other marker on the market that after a couple hundred shots you have to retune after break in, and we never question there quality.

[11 Bravo]

Dont go there!

[oneworld]

w00t. that was my 1000th post.. kool

[Bejita]

well. i had:
a 2k2 timmy. no work to well.
a dm4. worked ok. had one flaw after some use.
a mag. completly went to hell on me.
and a race cocker. it was broke. but thanks to me life time warranty. i got it fixed.

never had an ion. but i think all guns go ad sooner or l8er. and i lubed mine after every use. and was very good with them.... i havent even shot an ion yet

and i dont know how relieable they are. . . but all guns break. but it doesnt stop most of us from buying them..

just my 15 yearold 2 cents

Yeah.......Uhhhh, sounds to me like the owner of these markers doesnt know WTF he's doing


Just my 2 cents from a 25 year old.

[WARPED1]

Yeah.......Uhhhh, sounds to me like the owner of these markers doesnt know WTF he's doing


Just my 2 cents from a 25 year old.

Well said. :)

[BD_Paintball]

2 reasons for that:

2) The Level 10 isnt required, but an option. You always have the choice of going Level 7, and not having to tune anything. So, the marker doesnt require tuning, the LX bolt kit does.

if you dont want the worst paint blender on the market you will get a lvl10 and tune it after every 500 shots. so i would say its just about as required to play as anything else. unless you like to clean your gun on the field.