Why I won't be getting an Ion.

[Lee]

sorry BD, must respectfully disagree with the "tuning level 10 every 500 shots" statement.

it's just not true.

[mobsterboy]

if you dont want the worst paint blender on the market you will get a lvl10 and tune it after every 500 shots. so i would say its just about as required to play as anything else. unless you like to clean your gun on the field.

I like to clean my gun on the field

no really, Yakitori,(this pains me to say this) you are right for ONCE. It is usually a user problem. Take any gun and it has its odds and quirks, oiling one a FREAKING LOT, barely oiling another. Stripping down a freaking ram driven impulse just to put some lube on all the orings(PITA if you ask me ). I can only think of one gun that I havent had to break down for a long while, my crappy spare parts eblade cocker. Note to all of you, opinions are like poop, in the end, its all monkey play... Errr, maybe it was opinions are like poop, in the end it still smells bad.

[yakitori]

I like to clean my gun on the field

no really, Yakitori,(this pains me to say this) you are right for ONCE. It is usually a user problem. Take any gun and it has its odds and quirks, oiling one a FREAKING LOT, barely oiling another. Stripping down a freaking ram driven impulse just to put some lube on all the orings(PITA if you ask me ). I can only think of one gun that I havent had to break down for a long while, my crappy spare parts eblade cocker. Note to all of you, opinions are like poop, in the end, its all monkey play... Errr, maybe it was opinions are like poop, in the end it still smells bad.

lol. Im right more than that. .

[Lohman446]

2 reasons for that:

1) A previous 15-year history of Quality.

2) The Level 10 isnt required, but an option. You always have the choice of going Level 7, and not having to tune anything. So, the marker doesnt require tuning, the LX bolt kit does.

So, I can have a $400 marker with NO anti-chop feature, or I can tune it. Or I can buy a $300 or $350 (Promaster) marker with breakbeam eyes...

[yakitori]

So, I can have a $400 marker with NO anti-chop feature, or I can tune it. Or I can buy a $300 or $350 (Promaster) marker with breakbeam eyes...

400 for a mech marker w/ no antichop feature. 300-350 for an electro w/ eyes. not that electro is "better" as that is opinion, but it does have it advantages over a mech.

[yakitori]

What does that have to do with questioning quality?

because a 400 dollar gun w/ no antichop feature is In my book, not good quality. Its like owning an electro w/ no eyes. Most wont do it. And it falls short of good.

[yakitori]

By that logic all pump markers are poor quality?

IMO yes. who wants to pump a paintball gun all day. Had one....didnt like it.

[mobsterboy]

Ion QC for some time sucked - no way around it. They had various people assembling them who were not normal assemblers, and testing was shotgun at best..

However, that being said, I know of at least one other marker on the market that after a couple hundred shots you have to retune after break in, and we never question there quality.

because THEIR(thats plural possesive, not reffering to a place) is so hard to spell

[mobsterboy]

IMO yes. who wants to pump a paintball gun all day. Had one....didnt like it.

see, yet another way that you are WRONG. Pump is preference, but your preference doesnt count, cuz you own an ion

[yakitori]

see, yet another way that you are WRONG. Pump is preference, but your preference doesnt count, cuz you own an ion

My Ion is nicer than most Ions. Also, it may be sold to pay for the 06 proto I bought. And still, yes it is opinion, but pumps suck. I hated playing pump, I mean, it was fun for a little bit, but I like getting eliminations more than 1 a game. It was small light and fast, but seriously its not easy to snapshoot someone w/ one shot from a loud gun. The first time you shoot at them they know where you are and that you have a pump, and your pretty pinned after that. Anobody that knows just has to stay posted on you. Ill admit when I used my pump I played more agressive, drew a lot of attention and allowed my other teamates to get some eliminations. I still didnt like it.

[mobsterboy]

see, you arent a team player. you are in it for your own glory. I play so that my teammates can get the edge on the opposition. I'll waste pods on just holding ppl in their spots while my front man gets to bunker them.

Sure, pumps no fun when you're the only one, but thats what everyone says about just about everything. Thats why everyones taken to electros, because they dont wanna be the odd man out. Personally, I took to electros because with ridiculous resale, I can now get guns I never even dreamed of owning 3 years ago. Ion sold to get a proto, hmm, sounds like your going from the number one selling $300 midlevel gun to the number one overrated and sold $800 gun

[yakitori]

see, you arent a team player. you are in it for your own glory. I play so that my teammates can get the edge on the opposition. I'll waste pods on just holding ppl in their spots while my front man gets to bunker them.

Sure, pumps no fun when you're the only one, but thats what everyone says about just about everything. Thats why everyones taken to electros, because they dont wanna be the odd man out. Personally, I took to electros because with ridiculous resale, I can now get guns I never even dreamed of owning 3 years ago. Ion sold to get a proto, hmm, sounds like your going from the number one selling $300 midlevel gun to the number one overrated and sold $800 gun

you know EVERYTHING dont you. You say your opinions as if they are the absolute end all truths and that its black and white. Move over to the gray area fool. More insults about the markers I choose to buy w/ MY money, that I earned working my arse off. Ill shoot what I please, and I should be free of flaming about it on a website that doesnt allow flaming. Ya know, that used to not happen before you registered, now its just you flaming talking your stupid nonsense everytime I post.

I play front, my teams WANTS me to get eliminations, if Im not, then Im not doing my job. Sounds like you are one of those "ill hang out in the back here until everyone else does the work, then Ill shoot someone" kinda guys.

Backmen dont get as many eliminations. So your front men arent team players either then, cause they do all the killing while you lane. . Stop your freaking flaming.

Everytime I freakin post, you chime in w/ your rude sarcasitc remarks. and the 06 proto is 924 msrp. Shows how much you know. Its a nicely priced high end electro. How much are 06 timmys? 06 DM or DM6? How about an ICD fs-7 msrp? or any other high end gun. The 06 proto is not the most expensive one. Overhyped? Lets see some of the hype put out by them?

Think of it this way, If it wasnt for me and others like me, your poor arse wouldnt be buying my gun 2 years from now.

[mobsterboy]

you know EVERYTHING dont you. You say your opinions as if they are the absolute end all truths and that its black and white. Move over to the gray area fool. More insults about the markers I choose to buy w/ MY money, that I earned working my arse off. Ill shoot what I please, and I should be free of flaming about it on a website that doesnt allow flaming. Ya know, that used to not happen before you registered, now its just you flaming talking your stupid nonsense everytime I post.

I play front, my teams WANTS me to get eliminations, if Im not, then Im not doing my job. Sounds like you are one of those "ill hang out in the back here until everyone else does the work, then Ill shoot someone" kinda guys.

Backmen dont get as many eliminations. So your front men arent team players either then, cause they do all the killing while you lane. . Stop your freaking flaming.

Everytime I freakin post, you chime in w/ your rude sarcasitc remarks. and the 06 proto is 924 msrp. Shows how much you know. Its a nicely priced high end electro. How much are 06 timmys? 06 DM or DM6? How about an ICD fs-7 msrp? or any other high end gun. The 06 proto is not the most expensive one. Overhyped? Lets see some of the hype put out by them?

Think of it this way, If it wasnt for me and others like me, your poor arse wouldnt be buying my gun 2 years from now.

Yeah, I sit in the back, THATS WHAT BACKMEN DO. Seems like your backmen get eliminated too much so you dont know what their job really is.

Really, worked your arse off. I didnt know that you did that, i thought it was just getting paid to write your usually wrong overbiased opinions on forums. At least Im open to guns I dont own or plan to get in the future.

Ok, I never brought up anything about the other guns you mentioned, but you have to admit, there is a lot of "hype" insinuated with the matrices. Just to let you know, I dont plan on buying a matrix, just because I don't like the pricks that use matrices(perfect example = you). I think the only guy I liked who used a matrix was a guy who had worked his way up from a cocker on a rookie team to a sponsorship on a novice team who plays locally

As far as shooting what you please, do that, but remember you open yourself up to comments when you shoot off from your mouth, and not your ion.

And my sarcastic comments...well, learn to post better and maybe I wouldnt have anything to say. 924, 800, msrp = how much the sucker will pay to get it brand new when it still needs tweaking tuning and breaking in. 924 mean that it will be 600 in a month. Face it, resale sucks, and matrices are not immune

[mobsterboy]

on a funnier note, yak, i can't believe you, only 5 days and you are pushing your limits, trying to get banned again. Was a 7 day break not enough?

[SpecialBlend2786]

I thought it was $949.95

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Derek.