What is ramping?

[Jasonl619]

Sorry, I was playing paintball when electronics weren't in the mix and then took a short break and now there's all this new technology. What is ramping? I know the electros have burst modes and full auto but don't know the definition of ramping.

[BuyMyMag]

Ramping is basically being able to pull the trigger a certain amount of BPS constantly, but the gun is firing at a set rate of fire, faster than you are pulling.

[Skoad]

its best explained by example. Gun is set to 15bps ramping at 3bps. So, you shoot the gun...once you hit 3 balls per second it automatically starts firing 15 balls per second as long as you keep pulling above 3 bps.

Of course there are many variations on this but this is a simple example.

[Kwaidd]

have to admit i didnt really know what the def was either since i'm coming from the old school side of things and havent played in a few years as well. I guess i would have to make the statement at this point....thats crap.

if thats how todays paintball game is played...i don;t see a reason for playing. Go out on field where todays player only has to hit lets say 5 bps and the gun starts shooting 12 even? someone has brought up several times something about "skill sets" I think he called them. Is shooting fast a skillset? I guess it used to be...pretty much a joke now i guess.

I need to find myself a bunch of other old schoolers and duke it out with old semis and pump guns out in the woods I guess. More i read and find out about the "new game", the less interest i have in taking part in it.

/shrug

-kw

[stop whining buy a mag]

Once you hit a predetermined rate of fire (legally) the ramping software kicks in and "ramps" (hence the name) the BPS up to the the max rate of fire. Some boards allow you to have "smooth" or "soft" ramping which slowly makes the gun get up to the max rate of fire and some have "hard" ramping which as fast as possible jumps the rate of fire up to the max.

Most major tournament leagues are starting to use a 15 BPS cap with ramping.

[phantomhitman]

have to admit i didnt really know what the def was either since i'm coming from the old school side of things and havent played in a few years as well. I guess i would have to make the statement at this point....thats crap.

if thats how todays paintball game is played...i don;t see a reason for playing. Go out on field where todays player only has to hit lets say 5 bps and the gun starts shooting 12 even? someone has brought up several times something about "skill sets" I think he called them. Is shooting fast a skillset? I guess it used to be...pretty much a joke now i guess.

I need to find myself a bunch of other old schoolers and duke it out with old semis and pump guns out in the woods I guess. More i read and find out about the "new game", the less interest i have in taking part in it.

/shrug

-kw

This is the typical response to ramping. Guys, you have to understand that only a handful of tourneys allow it, and no rec fields approve it other than for team practice. Not every tourney players uses it, or rec player with a $1000+ gun walks onto a field using it. Stop thinking that or spreading rumors about what you heard is the current state of paintball. These ignorant kiddies get online and post about how cool ramping is or making a video showing ramping and everyone thinks that is what is going on. I hate ramping with a passion, but I do not consider it cheating because EVERYONE can use it.
It is comparable to "tourney players" saying woods/rec/scenario cheat because of the rampant use of burst and response modes (do not even try to deny it). But that style of game is high and mighty, no one wipes, cheats, overshoots, plays on, turns up velocities, or uses gun "feautres" illegally right? Get real, the new players cheat more than tourney players but the spolight happens to be on the tourney guys more so of course we get the bad credit. Do me a favor and go to a scenario game or random rec ball field. If you do not see people camoed up (as opposed to team jerseys), with mil sim markers (add ons out the wazoo instead of the streamline fast guns), using full auto or burst fires (as opposed to ramping) I will kiss your grits (as a way to show you I love you).

/stepsdownfromsoapbox

[Tunaman]

have to admit i didnt really know what the def was either since i'm coming from the old school side of things and havent played in a few years as well. I guess i would have to make the statement at this point....thats crap.

if thats how todays paintball game is played...i don;t see a reason for playing. Go out on field where todays player only has to hit lets say 5 bps and the gun starts shooting 12 even? someone has brought up several times something about "skill sets" I think he called them. Is shooting fast a skillset? I guess it used to be...pretty much a joke now i guess.

I need to find myself a bunch of other old schoolers and duke it out with old semis and pump guns out in the woods I guess. More i read and find out about the "new game", the less interest i have in taking part in it.

/shrug

-kw

There are CERTAINLY alot of other Old Schoolers and new players alike that feel the same way as you. Support your Local Sceniero game. Have fun. See ya there!

[Kwaidd]

no offense phantom, i know where yer comin from.

...but if yer gonna reference my post and then make a sarcastic response about how woods/recball folks dont use gun features illegally "yeah right"....don't. I haven't even played in several years, which is why im so untolerant of all the hooplah of what paintball is today...and back when I was active..you can bet i was playin fairly. Anyways, not tryin to start some bs, just sayin I know paintball isnt the same game ethics wise as it used to be and the technology is part of the culprit and i don't have to like it.

cheerz

-kw

[phantomhitman]

It was not directed att you, but you gave the typical response I see from every single forum I go to or place I play. My answer was not sarcastic at all about the woods type player, it is all fact. Even back in the days the ethics were not all there, but people still got along better because of less differences. Now their are all types of guns, games, and gear. It has pulled the sport apart so to speak. Ask any old player about thumbing cocking rods, uppping velocity, hiding paint on the field, using liquad co2 to cause velocity spikes, etc. Just because there are cheaters now, that are pointed out on tv, doesnt mean the guys from the late 80s/early 90s didnt cheat. The "good ole golden days" is more myth than fact. Nothng was ever perfect in paintball, and I can almost gurantee that first game ever played had some questionable calls.
Its all good though, nothing personal. People just become the biggest uninformed hypocrits on the planet just becase the game is played at an "insane" pace to them now. Very few of the guys that absolutely bash tourney players actually go to tourneys or even try to give them a chance.

[Skoad]

All the rec fields I've ever played at allow ramping, some limit it to 15 some don't care how much you shoot. This is just rec or open play.

Last time I played there was like a 50-60 year old guy with his 15bps ramping shocker playing with little kids, 13 year old range. Like the 2nd game played one of my friends (he's 23) came around a bunker and the old guy shot him in the back 10+ times. Not just in the back either, 3 were in the back of the head, one right behind the ear. Afterwards the old guy was telling his friends about how my friend was pissed about it, and blah blah blah. I can't believe the old guy is resepected at the field, everyone knows his name. Wonder how many little kids he's completely blasted.

You can't really control when your gun stops firing. I mean you can but theres still a good 5 balls it shoots once you let go of the trigger. Good chance your going to hit someone numerous times.

[Lohman446]

You can't really control when your gun stops firing. I mean you can but theres still a good 5 balls it shoots once you let go of the trigger. Good chance your going to hit someone numerous times.

Every marker I have shot that had a good ramping feature on it stopped immediatly when the trigger pulls stopped - of course shot buffering was different... and scarey

[phantomhitman]

Every marker I have shot that had a good ramping feature on it stopped immediatly when the trigger pulls stopped - of course shot buffering was different... and scarey

I agree, never seen a gun that keeps shooting after the trigger release.

[phantomhitman]

All the rec fields I've ever played at allow ramping, some limit it to 15 some don't care how much you shoot. This is just rec or open play.

Last time I played there was like a 50-60 year old guy with his 15bps ramping shocker playing with little kids, 13 year old range. Like the 2nd game played one of my friends (he's 23) came around a bunker and the old guy shot him in the back 10+ times. Not just in the back either, 3 were in the back of the head, one right behind the ear. Afterwards the old guy was telling his friends about how my friend was pissed about it, and blah blah blah. I can't believe the old guy is resepected at the field, everyone knows his name. Wonder how many little kids he's completely blasted.

You can't really control when your gun stops firing. I mean you can but theres still a good 5 balls it shoots once you let go of the trigger. Good chance your going to hit someone numerous times.

Sorry for the double post.
Why didnt you go to the field owner and complain.
1-He was ramping with younger more inexperianced kids
2-He shot a kid up
3-No one was using ramping, so its unfair
The owner would either fix the problem or treat you like crap, at least you know what type of person he is and where his opinions lie.

[stop whining buy a mag]

Phantom is right, a lot of old school rec ballers give ramping a bad name. Many of them in my area don't even know how it works, yet they think it's going to kill someone. I guess it could, but so could any decent electro in semi.

Responsible people know when they are allowed to use ramping. If you are playing an open rec day with a bunch of kiddies, keep it on semi. If you are playing with a bunch of experienced players on a field that does allow ramping, then it is ok as long as people agree to it. If you need to turn on ramping while playing with a bunch of 12 year olds that have Spyders, you need to find another sport.

[SCpoloRicker]

Pie!