What is ramping?

[Miscue]

I don't have much of an issue with ramping. I consider lax enforcement of one-pull/shot rules an open invitation... silent agreement to ignore the rule... kinda like how back in the day wide-receivers used to be able to push off defenders regularly without fear of an offensive pass-interference call... although the rule was there. It wasn't important because the rule was consistently not enforced... and the point of rules is to keep things the same... and this remains satisfied... the game is still good.

Does it hurt the game? No... it changes it. I like all mech games... and even electros before they shot for you. Unfortunately it is more difficult to get into those kinds of games now... but the new version of paintball is appealing as well.

I do have an issue with selective enforcement of the rule... done so in a political manner.

My main problem with ramping/etc. is when it gets in the hands of punks... it lets jerkfaces be even bigger jerkfaces. The recball field has become more hostile for newbs. I also tend to get mad more often because of the jerkface+electronics combination...

I remember the day when you had to aim your paintball marker... those days are gone.

[Skoad]

I agree, I really can't see a newb player going to the field for the first time (or not) and actually having fun with all these people ramping.

[tyrion2323]

I haven't even played in several years, which is why im so untolerant of all the hooplah of what paintball is today...

Maybe the problem isn't the ramping, but that you're so intolerant of new changes in the sport. If you haven't even played in several years, then there's no way that you have experienced the new "hooplah" that we enjoy.

Perhaps learning to humble yourself before the idea that some changes aren't always that bad, and that an entire sport isn't suddenly horrible because of new gun modes. There is a lot of talent required to play paintball today, and dismissing it simply because you're upset about something you haven't even experienced isn't impressive.

Anyways, not tryin to start some bs, just sayin I know paintball isnt the same game ethics wise as it used to be and the technology is part of the culprit and i don't have to like it.

Well, the thing is, you are starting BS. You're spewing out a whole bunch of crap that you don't really know much about, and you're trying to make yourself seem above the fray. If you haven't played in a few years, there's NO WAY that you can know that paintball isn't as ethically sound as it used to be - which, of course, is a statement that you can't back up statistically in the first place. Cheating has been around in paintball for years and years - from 'hotballing' to 'debouncing' to 'ramping' - there have been tons of variations of the same crap.

You just come off as one of the hundred other AO Oldniks who complain and generalize everything ... it's just us tourney players who cheat, right? That's a bunch of balogna and we all know it. If you hate ramping and electronics, then there are many other paintball options available to you...but don't come in and rag on something you have no idea about.

[neppo1345]

You just come off as one of the hundred other AO Oldniks who complain and generalize everything ... it's just us tourney players who cheat, right? That's a bunch of balogna and we all know it. If you hate ramping and electronics, then there are many other paintball options available to you...but don't come in and rag on something you have no idea about.

Umm...dude, he never specified tournament players...and he never even used the word cheating...he just said he doesn't like untalented ***hats that can walk onto the field having never played a day in their lives, turn on their ramping marker and mow down all the other people....it takes all the skill out of the game...and don't generalize all paintball players by saying that "WE" like the new hooplah....cause not all of us do...

Yeah, my cocker ramps...do I use it...no, it takes all the fun out of the game...lately i've found myself going back to my mech mag and my mech cocker...it's no fun walking onto a rec ball field and laying down 15 bps...even if it's in semi....on the rec ball field...i play to have fun...

[FSU_Paintball]

Shooting fast, in my opinion, is a skill. Ramping takes that skill out of the game, and I consider that unfortunate.

On the other hand, more emphasis is placed on your timing and how well you move now. Ramping is kind of the great equalizer for all our gear... everyone shoots the same speed, so skill differences really come down to how good of a head you've got on the field and how good a fighter you really are.


It doesn't encourage cheating. Fast guns and electronics encourage cheating? Overshooting and paint consumption perhaps, but cheating? No. That's like saying woodsball encourages psycho-soldier personalities.

[can'tthink of1]

I hate ramping for the sole reason all people want to do is shoot more. Also, it allows people to run and gun with 15bps (or higher), where as being able to shoot fast and run used to be an amazing skill..

[mobsterboy]

Sorry, I was playing paintball when electronics weren't in the mix and then took a short break and now there's all this new technology. What is ramping? I know the electros have burst modes and full auto but don't know the definition of ramping.

Ramping is where you either suck at walking the trigger or too lazy to walk the trigger and need shot assistance of some sort so that your game isn't whack anymore. Its kinda like a cane for an old person, they still suck at walking, but at least its not embarassing.

[yingyang]

The devil of paintball...

[stop whining buy a mag]

Ramping is where you either suck at walking the trigger or too lazy to walk the trigger and need shot assistance of some sort so that your game isn't whack anymore. Its kinda like a cane for an old person, they still suck at walking, but at least its not embarassing.

That was not the intention at all when it was introduced by major tournament leaugues. Cheating was rampant especially involving gun modes in semi only tournaments. If everyone was allowed 15 BPS they hoped most of the morons would be content with that. And it is working to an extent.

[Kwaidd]

chuckle, i love how vocal tyrion gets over me making simple statements on how i perceive things to be. like, shame on me for having an opinion. =p

as far as whos starting bs, i didnt single anyone or any group out or make any personal attacks...which isnt something i can say for you now is it?

maybe you should humble yourself to the idea that maybe your thought process isnt 100 percent right either.

anyways, my advice...take a chill pill mr hothead, b4 ya pop a vessel.

[tyrion2323]

kwaiid, your post comes in a queue of many others, all along the same vein - that ramping and speedball have ruined the sport, that tournament players are massive cheaters, etc. You have, perhaps unwittingly, joined into the chorus of people who put up a large outcry over what turn out to be quite minor changes in the game of paintball...

But how could you know? As you said before, you haven't played in quite some time. It must be that you've simply perceived the sport to have lost its ethics. What did you expect by coming onto a paintball forum and declaring that you're intolerant of the way the game is played now.

What personal attacks did I throw at you? Did I call you a moron, a jerk, or something else? Nah. I simply pointed out the holes in your statement ... it wasn't too hard. Where are the statistics and figures backing up your 'opinion' that paintball has lost its ethics? On what do you base your intolerance of modern paintball? Cheating has been around for ages, as have gun modifications and turbo-fire modes. Heck, AGD made one of the first 'cheater' guns with the E-Mag's "hybrid" mode...

My thinking might not always be 100% correct - it's true - but it's sure as heck a lot more informed and up-to-date than yours.

[phantomhitman]

kind of like the pot calling the kettle black......except the pot doesnt get media attention and is not a mainstream pot.

[Kwaidd]

im not saying ramping or speedball have ruined the sport =p

im saying that i think being able to ramp takes away the skill that some had as far as being able to simply shoot fast and be a good shot. so, i dont care for that idea. ive never knocked speedball or tourney stuff, and if you like that style...more power to you. But I don't have to care for that version of paintball, and that style isnt for me. BTW, ive never said speedball players are cheaters (insinuating woodsball players aren't). You drew that conclusion yourself.

You read way too much into what little i was saying....but you have had some classes in psychology, so I guess I should expect you to over-analyze, and overreact to stuff. chuckle

anyways,

it's ok to agree to disagree...

/salute

-kw

[phantomhitman]

your still a pot

[Kwaidd]

laff, then im old, unused and corroded

drunk, playin EverQuest, listening to Hair metal on aolradio and no clue what yer talkin bout. so that's the best response i got to the pot thing. keep it real

-kw