Reliability of Vikings

[dahoeb]

Maybe in your crappy pball playing eyes....

yes, youre right, youre not making an arse out of yourself. let it go. its just a pball forum.

[68magOwner]

SO, sum up this thread
-Vikings are arguably the best poppet valve marker to date, and, as far as reliability goes, second to none.

Dont know that anyones going to argue that.


-just a sidenote, i agree with SOME of the stuff that yak is saying, for instance, some people have ad problems with the detents in the 04's, but, this has been fixed by many of mods (stretching detent springs, or oring behind the ram, or the quad detent mod) But, some of the stuff (like fsdo being common, or balls lobbing down, is just nonsense as far as im concerned).

[CoolHand]

libel is publicly written. Slander is a more relative explaination of it since you are typing your thoughts which would be otherwise spoken.

I know what libel is.

I have NOT made an arse of myself. Maybe in your crappy pball playing eyes I have, but Ive said nothing but what I know and believe to be true about vikings. I owned one for a long time and I know.

so you dont like spoolers, and I like them more than poppets. Big deal. they shoot smoother to me. Ive said over and over that if I went to a poppet that it would be a viking excal or cyborg....so stfu already

YES!!!

I think I can actually see steam coming out of your ears.

When I read the last page and a half of this thread I get this image in my head of a very short kid swinging his arms frantically, while the bully (being a full foot taller) holds him at arms length with the palm of his hand on the short kid's forehead.

It's almost too priceless for words.

OK, I'm done trolling now. I just had to yank your chain a couple of more times Yak, it was too wonderful to pass up.

Have a good one.

[UTDragun]

Wait, was that directed at me, or yakitori?

it was directed at yak

I used your statement to prove yak wrong

I wouldnt take Utdragons word for anything. As far as Im concerned he isnt aware of ANY issues w/ vikings.

wow thats just plain ignorant, unsupported bs

[UTDragun]

SO, sum up this thread
-Vikings are arguably the best poppet valve marker to date, and, as far as reliability goes, second to none.

Dont know that anyones going to argue that.


-just a sidenote, i agree with SOME of the stuff that yak is saying, for instance, some people have ad problems with the detents in the 04's, but, this has been fixed by many of mods (stretching detent springs, or oring behind the ram, or the quad detent mod) But, some of the stuff (like fsdo being common, or balls lobbing down, is just nonsense as far as im concerned).

First statement could be argued, last statement = true

I have NOT made an arse of myself

[68magOwner]

First statement could be argued,

Hence the word "arguably" right in there

[UTDragun]

Hence the word "arguably" right in there

yes, was supporting you

[68magOwner]

just making things clear, because, as we all know, when you get down to it, there is no end all be all best of the best in any catagory of anything for paintball, but, as far as poppet markers go, vikings are cream of the crop

[Steelrat]

it was directed at yak

I used your statement to prove yak wrong

I thought it might be, but I wasn't 100%.

[yakitori]

just making things clear, because, as we all know, when you get down to it, there is no end all be all best of the best in any catagory of anything for paintball, but, as far as poppet markers go, vikings are cream of the crop

as I have said in this thread. I just pointed out other issues that ppl have faced w/ vikings and all the fanbois throw a ****fit.

UTdragon you didnt prove anything wrong. All you provided was a link to angrypaintball saying they are selling tadao board (a VERY small run) after the cup. That was over a month ago. Shut up now. You lose.


and FSDO was a problem w/ some 03s. UT, you try to make it sound like its old news and an old problem. Vikings were stopped production in 04 and the problem wasnt corrected until then. Took long enough didnt it. Not ALL vikings have FSDO issues, and some can be allevieate by increasing dwell which will inturn decrease efficiency. Some have reported having to run dwell at 16ms to avoid it. I had it w/ WAS pre 1.6v firmware on my 03. It is a pneumatic issue and involve a sticky ram. It happens.....and even DAN "auctionjunky" admits it and refers to it on many occasions. WHen I update to WAS 1.6v firmware which added 4ms of dwell for the first shot, I had first shot hot. I tried ALL kinds of settings, both LPR and dwell, never helped. Tadao ABS dwell fixed the problem. STFU if you dont know UTdragon. Youve prolly never heard of it cause you dont know jack squat about vikings.

And I never once said they werent reliable, consistent, dependable, fast, efficient. They are. And prolly some of the best at it in the poppet line. I get sick of ppl making it out like Im BASHING them for saying what I have said. Ive been unbiased, and thats what ppl want to really hear. Some of you act like a bunch of pbreview or pbn kids that get mad when someone says ONE thing about the gun you own that is a Con. Get over it. Truth hurts, and life sucks, then you die.

[Jerzee201]

Actually, I got my Tadao board from Angry this past Friday, ordered the week before.

Unfortunately, it shipped with the older firmware (no Excal support). Sent to Will.

cheers

[SCpoloRicker]

yak, you are making an arse of yourself. Again.

[Skoad]

most guns today still have FSDO...except now they include software to help alleviate that

[UTDragun]

as I have said in this thread. I just pointed out other issues that ppl have faced w/ vikings and all the fanbois throw a ****fit.

UTdragon you didnt prove anything wrong. All you provided was a link to angrypaintball saying they are selling tadao board (a VERY small run) after the cup. That was over a month ago. Shut up now. You lose.

You still dont get it do you? Tadao boards are in stock at many online stores. Angry had them in stock last week. There are many vikings on BST on many forums that have tadao. Face it, no matter how you reword and keep saying the same ****. You are still overexaggerating the number of tadao boards out there.

and FSDO was a problem w/ some 03s. UT, you try to make it sound like its old news and an old problem. Vikings were stopped production in 04 and the problem wasnt corrected until then. Took long enough didnt it. Not ALL vikings have FSDO issues, and some can be allevieate by increasing dwell which will inturn decrease efficiency. Some have reported having to run dwell at 16ms to avoid it. I had it w/ WAS pre 1.6v firmware on my 03. It is a pneumatic issue and involve a sticky ram. It happens.....and even DAN "auctionjunky" admits it and refers to it on many occasions. WHen I update to WAS 1.6v firmware which added 4ms of dwell for the first shot, I had first shot hot. I tried ALL kinds of settings, both LPR and dwell, never helped. Tadao ABS dwell fixed the problem. STFU if you dont know UTdragon. Youve prolly never heard of it cause you dont know jack squat about vikings.

Yes, some 03s had fsdo. But once again you exaggerate on how many truly had problems. Turning up the dwell fixed most of this problem. Being childish doesnt acomplish anything.

And I never once said they werent reliable, consistent, dependable, fast, efficient. They are. And prolly some of the best at it in the poppet line. I get sick of ppl making it out like Im BASHING them for saying what I have said. Ive been unbiased, and thats what ppl want to really hear. Some of you act like a bunch of pbreview or pbn kids that get mad when someone says ONE thing about the gun you own that is a Con. Get over it. Truth hurts, and life sucks, then you die.



People are not "bashing" you for listing cons and not pros, most are correcting some of your theories, generalizations, or exaggerations on some info. Resorting to name calling when you cant think of anything else to do and disrespect others when you cant have a civil discussion...

hypocrisy at its finest

Obviously this topic has been run down into the ground as well as your self image and im tired of seeing you post the same junk over and over.

[yakitori]

so angry had them last week and had a small run of them and you "exaggerate" that they still have them in stock.

I didnt resort to name calling until someone started w/ the dye fanboi talk, so how is that hipocracy? Its not, its being defensive. Call names and expect to get called one back. I dont turn the other cheek. I hit back. ANd I did think of other stuff to do. Every one of my posts was about a viking and not "just" namecalling. Again, I only did that after being referred to as a fanboi. Like you guys arent fabois. HOws that for hypocracy. Dont use the term so loosely when you partake in such behavior.

FSDO was an issue on more than what you are "exaggerating" about. Just cause 3-5 ppl on AO didnt have it doesnt mean that "none" of the other 2000+ vikings or excals dont. Ive been reading on many many occasions in the PBN forum. Dont believe it, go search.

youre still stupid or dont get it. I never listed cons and not pros. I listed both but you seem so offended by the cons that you get upset and start the bashing. Again, Ive been unbiased about it. And you still dont seem to know much about vikings.

I post the same thing over and over cause you keep arguing the same moot points. You are saying my cons dont really exist when they do. I never discredited reliabiltiy, efficiency or other pros, I just listed SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT PPL HAVE HAD W/ VIKINGS. are you still not getting it. You seem to want to argue about the TADAO board and thats all. So what, there are a couple places that have a few boards you can buy. I wouldnt call that readily available. And I keep repeating myself .....ya right.