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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #31
    Originally posted by phantomhitman
    lohman, i am not complaining about anything. i just want to know what the cost is to make a case of paint. i am not arguing about anything, or saying this or that about price markups. i am just trying to figure out how much a case costs a manufacturer to make. what canyou not understand about that, I KNOW WHY THE FINAL PRICE IS HIGH i just want to know HOW MUCH IT COSTS THEM TO MAKE.

    Including what costs? Material? Labor? Cost of equipment? Utilities? Transportation? Opportunity costs?
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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    • phantomhitman
      ao's official bad guy
      • Oct 2003
      • 1841

      #32
      ok, lets see what should be included
      1-material
      2-machine time
      3-labor

      Just raw cost. Nothing added for shipping, r&d, startup costs, testing, etc. The price I am looking for is what they are trying to make money on top of. It would be something like $10-20, because they sell paint to distributors for $25-35 a case. Distributors then sell it to fields or events for $40-50 a case. Fields then sell it for $45-90 a case. I know they need to make money to put in theri pockets as well as cover their initial product costs, that is were they get their final sales figure from. I think I am overcomplicating this.
      my feedback
      countdown on devilmag day........ill let you now

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      • 11 Bravo
        Predatored Karta Mag
        • May 2005
        • 1247

        #33
        His question was how much does it cost the mfg to make a case of paint. Without getting into the argument about mark up and how many people have to get their cut and the insuarance costs and all that bs.
        To answer the simple question: around $15.00 give or take a few bucks depending on the quality.

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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #34
          Originally posted by phantomhitman
          ok, lets see what should be included
          1-material
          2-machine time
          3-labor

          Just raw cost. Nothing added for shipping, r&d, startup costs, testing, etc. The price I am looking for is what they are trying to make money on top of. It would be something like $10-20, because they sell paint to distributors for $25-35 a case. Distributors then sell it to fields or events for $40-50 a case. Fields then sell it for $45-90 a case. I know they need to make money to put in theri pockets as well as cover their initial product costs, that is were they get their final sales figure from. I think I am overcomplicating this.
          From start to handing it to the distributor, not including such theoreticals as opportunity cost, I would guess the actual cost on a case to be between $10 and $15
          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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          • phantomhitman
            ao's official bad guy
            • Oct 2003
            • 1841

            #35
            my assupmtion was right then. thanks guys, let me know if anyone is in the biz and can give proof on that. all i know is field cost, which is $25-30 for rec and $35-40 for mid grade.
            my feedback
            countdown on devilmag day........ill let you now

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            • Mind'sEye
              XT00157
              • May 2005
              • 186

              #36
              Originally posted by 11 Bravo
              His question was how much does it cost the mfg to make a case of paint. Without getting into the argument about mark up and how many people have to get their cut and the insuarance costs and all that bs.
              To answer the simple question: around $15.00 give or take a few bucks depending on the quality.
              That's a simple answer to a somewhat complicated accounting question. What is your source? The only certain way to determine the average cost of producing a case of paintballs is to examine the company's books. The basic formula would be: The total of ALL operating expenses directly related to the manufacture of paintballs for a quarter, divided by the number of cases produced in that quarter. Is there anybody out there with access to PMI's, Rp Scherer division full financials?

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              • Conversekidz
                Just a guy with a gun
                • Dec 2004
                • 634

                #37
                anyone bring up that most paint makers are pharma companies?

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                • Kevmaster
                  Owners Group Div: Director
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 5475

                  #38
                  right...an actual CD costs less than $0.50 to make and copy the tracks onto.

                  However, the marketing of that CD, the artist, the producers, the graphic designers, the buildings all have to be paid for too. Thats not to say they don't make profit on CDs, but the owner of a record company doesnt walk home with $11.50 on each $12.00 CD...

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                  • latches109

                    #39

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                    • SpitFire1299
                      :P
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 1765

                      #40
                      Awesome! Thanks for that information. :cheers:

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                      • SCpoloRicker
                        HA HA I'm custom!!1
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4375

                        #41
                        w/o reading the thread; I'll go ahead and recommend you run away. ;)

                        Originally posted by Lohman446
                        Especially if one fails to consider all the costs that are part of manufacturing paint that are not directly in the product, such as overhead and return on investment, as well as opportunity costs of equipment used. Factor in shipping, lost product, and middle-man markup...

                        Theres a big difference between material cost of paint and the manufacturing / selling cost of paint, unfortunately I think many people only consider material cost in making there judgements.

                        My guess - uneducated I have nothing to do with making paintballs - about $10 - $18 to manufacture, store, package, and sell (to a distributor in large quantities) not considering shipping costs or opportunity costs.
                        God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                        • 11 Bravo
                          Predatored Karta Mag
                          • May 2005
                          • 1247

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Mind'sEye
                          That's a simple answer to a somewhat complicated accounting question. What is your source? The only certain way to determine the average cost of producing a case of paintballs is to examine the company's books. The basic formula would be: The total of ALL operating expenses directly related to the manufacture of paintballs for a quarter, divided by the number of cases produced in that quarter. Is there anybody out there with access to PMI's, Rp Scherer division full financials?

                          Its a simple answer to a simple question. I have contact with two different sources at two different companies. Also these companies mfg their own paint they do not use pharmacutical(sp) companies.
                          He asked a simple question and I gave him a direct answer without trying to show off my big business brain like some people.
                          Last edited by 11 Bravo; 11-22-2005, 08:19 PM.

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                          • FSU_Paintball
                            (well, not any longer)
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 618

                            #43
                            At a recent well-known tournament that a team I have been affiliated with in the past, they were given the top (*top*) quality tournament paint for $25/case. And there is no way that the company in question would have been willing to lose money on the deal - the team in question ain't exactly Dynasty. This was strictly a just-for-this-event case, not a full sponsorship.

                            I suspect total cost is about $15-20 for the absolute best paint to be manufactured, boxed, everything except shipped.
                            FSU Paintball
                            Eblade Dye Ultralite Minicocker, gun metal grey (click)

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                            • SlartyBartFast
                              The Flying Scotsman
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 2940

                              #44

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                              • onedude36
                                Registered User
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 943

                                #45
                                A shop near me charges about 26(i think) per case of charge. Its not great, but will get you through a practice. That averages about 1.3 cents per ball.
                                "Don't stoned i'm shoot" -someoneiforget

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