One shot to the head or neck at 15ft at 300fps

[buzzboy]

Usually I just wear a turtle neck so it isn't too bad. I've been shot in the neck and not even known I was hit.

[phantomhitman]

that is the last place i want to get shot...ever

[warpspyder]

Sorry dude, but voluntarily getting shot in the neck just ain't gonna fly

[Thordic]

Just in general? No, I'm not that dumb.

Do I think its dangerous? No, not really. I'm not worried about the aftereffects of such a hit, but I do realize it'd be rather painful and I don't feel like going through that I took a hot hit off the collarbone at NJAO this year and not only did it bleed but it left a mark for over two weeks. Granted it was hot, but it was from around 30 feet.

I've gotten shot in the neck before, and it hurts like hell. I don't think anyone is going to argue with that. You might even have trouble breathing for a few seconds. But as far as an actual injury is concerned, I think that'd be an extremely rare event.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

head (goggles, back of the head, top of my head) yes
neck... uhhh... i don't really get shot in the neck a lot so no (neck isn't use to getting hit yet =P)

so... would this qualify as a yes or a no? cause there's no "Maybe" vote

[etjoyride]

yes i would, the other day i got shot in the finger from 5ft away at about 285 or so, so i figure a neck shot from 15ft. at 300 away wouldn't be to much worse.

[Lohman446]

I have enough knowledge to beleive that there is a chance that bad luck on any given day of paintball could cause me severe injury, such as the dead on neck shot or head shot at extreme close range. I beleive the chances remote.

There is also a chance that my treadmill erupts into flames when I am on it, or I get hit by a car walking down the street. Every day when I take a deposit to the bank there is a chance that I am the victim of a crime. Every time I get in my vehicle I take a risk. When I participated in martial arts, there was a chance that I stepped into a sidekick, that could kill me in every match I participated in.

The point is, I except those risks, I love the game. I love what I do in it. Not ignored, the risks are worth the reward...

[stop whining buy a mag]

I have enough knowledge to beleive that there is a chance that bad luck on any given day of paintball could cause me severe injury, such as the dead on neck shot or head shot at extreme close range. I beleive the chances remote.

There is also a chance that my treadmill erupts into flames when I am on it, or I get hit by a car walking down the street. Every day when I take a deposit to the bank there is a chance that I am the victim of a crime. Every time I get in my vehicle I take a risk. When I participated in martial arts, there was a chance that I stepped into a sidekick, that could kill me in every match I participated in.

The point is, I except those risks, I love the game. I love what I do in it. Not ignored, the risks are worth the reward...

Ladies and Gentlemen, you are now free to up Lohman's useful post count to six.

If you want to be risk free for the rest of your life, run around New York City screaming "You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes" and you'll get yourself a safe, padded room.

[Beemer]

Just in general? No, I'm not that dumb.
Do I think its dangerous? No, not really.

You arent dumb and you dont think its dangerous.

I have enough knowledge to beleive that there is a chance that bad luck on any given day of paintball could cause me severe injury, such as the dead on neck shot or head shot at extreme close range.

Well this wasnt really about chances or risks. It was a simple yes or no poll, but since you brought it up.

I know when I get up in the morning there is a chance or risk I could slip and fall and break my neck. Does that mean I shouldnt care if the floor is wet.

When I skydive there is a Remote chance my main will have a function or fail. Does that mean I dont need my reserve?

I wont pull a micro[bunker] move on you for the simple fact I know it to be unsafe, with the current head gear and ROF most players use today.

Just because I know there are risks, chances and dangers doesnt mean I shouldnt do what I can to minimize them for my preservation.

Watch this clip and the shooters actions at the end. Tell me he doesnt know he put some serious hurt on that guy. Is THAT safe.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/HeadShots.wmv

Dont get me wrong. I love the GAME and will continue to play but do we really need to hurt each other to have FUN?

On a side note, is this where I use a /. I have played alot of ball in 19yrs. I have got it in my eye and been dropped to my knees from a shot to the ear at 10ft. I really dont wish to inflict that on another player. Do you?

The point is the ROF has increased, the range has decreased and the fps has stayed the same
They use to tell us this wasnt safe. This is why fullauto and the SMG was banned. Users were getting to close and causing harm. What makes it safe now. Must be an I.A.D.S.P.B.P. thing

Be SAFE
Play FAIR
Have FUN

Peace Out

[Thordic]

No, I don't think its particularly dangerous. I've been playing paintball for 8 years now, and I've gotten shot under multiple circumstances from multiple distances at multiple speeds. Some shots I barely felt, and some shots hurt like hell and left really nasty welts, but I don't believe there is a very large chance for injury resulting from a single paintball strike delivered at the legal velocity.

You can disagree with me all you want, but I think the odds of being injured by such a strike are very small. I've been hit in the neck and head, sometimes quite painfully, many times, and none of the hits have some close to causing injury. At NJAO2, I took a shot to the top of the head from about 2" away as I got bunkered. It bled some, and left a nasty welt, but I'd hardly call that a real injury.

Granted, with higher ROF the odds will go up some. But I've never been a proponent of high ROF. I don't believe lowering velocity is any sort of answer. At 280-300 FPS the trajectory of a paintball is still pretty bad, lowering it will only make the game more frustrating. Get the ROF under control, and you get the odds of an injury under control as well. You're looking at the wrong angle, IMO.

[Lohman446]

I've been hit in the neck and head, sometimes quite painfully, many times, and none of the hits have some close to being painful.

Though I do agree with you, the risk of being injured in game is minimal. However, the concern is, every ball in the air increases that risk, and ROF keeps rising. I haven't quit playing yet, nor would I in the forseeable future because of safety risks.

[Thordic]

Ugh thats what I get for trying to write out a post quickly as I'm doing work. Fixed.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

I agree with Thor and Lohmann that while paintball can be painful, it is not really dangerous, presuming we use the standard safety gear. It is a bit riskier with higher ROF, the smaller fields and the tactic of bunkering. But for those of us who are concerned about that, we just need to mind who we play with, and stick with people who play safely.

I've always said that the beauty of paintball is its flexibility. You can play however you want. You just need to find people who want to play the same way.

[Lohman446]

Ugh thats what I get for trying to write out a post quickly as I'm doing work. Fixed.

I'm still trying to teach myself the difference between accept and except, but nobody called me on that . And I knew what you meant, just couldn't resist

[Thordic]

I'm still trying to teach myself the difference between accept and except, but nobody called me on that . And I knew what you meant, just couldn't resist

I always had more trouble with affect and effect, personally