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  • Cow hunter
    300fps=204.54mph
    • Aug 2005
    • 1521

    #1

    When the mags die.......

    I realize it is inebitable that AGD is going down..... but i had a thought...... what will happen to them after they're gone? Might they be revived by a larger company? Truthfully I dont belive AGD will stay dead...... I dont think ive seen any threads on what will happen after they go down(if at all)..... Then there is the possibility of AGD becoming what palmers is, a small privtley held custom shop of sorts........

    What do you think?
  • buzzboy
    Emo grass cuts inself
    • Mar 2005
    • 1322

    #2
    Very possible but not nessassarily true. I really don't know though. I think they will be more like AKA.

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    • Willystyle21

      #3
      I never see them truly dieing. Especially with shops like Spec Ops selling their LongBow which is nothing more than A TacOne with a few mods. Long live AGD. In one way or another....

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      • Lohman446
        Useful posts: 7
        • Jun 2003
        • 9315

        #4
        Originally posted by Cow hunter
        I realize it is inebitable that AGD is going down..... but i had a thought...... what will happen to them after they're gone? Might they be revived by a larger company? Truthfully I dont belive AGD will stay dead...... I dont think ive seen any threads on what will happen after they go down(if at all)..... Then there is the possibility of AGD becoming what palmers is, a small privtley held custom shop of sorts........

        What do you think?
        AGD is privately owned, and I beleive some efforts have been made to cut overhead in the past years based only on what we have seen on the message boards and no actual "insider" knowledge.
        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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        • SpitFire1299
          :P
          • Jun 2004
          • 1765

          #5
          Originally posted by Lohman446
          AGD is privately owned, and I beleive some efforts have been made to cut overhead in the past years based only on what we have seen on the message boards and no actual "insider" knowledge.
          Yeah.. thats how i see it.

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          • Nutsnyomowf
            dont let the name scare U
            • Sep 2003
            • 175

            #6
            I think the AutoMag is way to pricey.If AGD was to re-release the ClassicMag with a ULE body,alil milling in the rail,Lvl10,a nice aluiminum single trigger frame(or the Intelli),and a barrel (cheap but ok one) at the price of a A5 Tippman then they can get a larger piece of the pie that owned by Tippman.The technology of the mag isgreat but also old like others have stated. Anyways we all know that whats considered Underground is always the best anyway.May the Mag and AGD live forever

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            • nirvana1234
              Registered User
              • Jul 2004
              • 242

              #7
              Originally posted by Nutsnyomowf
              I think the AutoMag is way to pricey.If AGD was to re-release the ClassicMag with a ULE body,alil milling in the rail,Lvl10,a nice aluiminum single trigger frame(or the Intelli),and a barrel (cheap but ok one) at the price of a A5 Tippman then they can get a larger piece of the pie that owned by Tippman.The technology of the mag isgreat but also old like others have stated. Anyways we all know that whats considered Underground is always the best anyway.May the Mag and AGD live forever

              i wish this too but it will never happen, AGD cant put mags at such a low price becuz of what it takes to build them. tippmann has strudy guns but they are also made from molds and such so the tolerances on them arent the greatest.

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              • mobsterboy
                Mr.StealYoDallara

                • Aug 2004
                • 2371

                #8
                hmmm, my xvalved hypermag doesnt look like its gonna die any time soon, so what are you talking about? A company is not measured simply by its gross and net profit, but by its loyal fans and quality-based products. Sure, SP has lots of ppl who love their company and their guns, but heck, they had so many problems with just about any gun they brought out, and their customer service was nicknamed "PITA". As long as we are here, AGD wont die, just fade into the background for those who know what they need out of a paintball gun to visit them
                RAWR
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                • shartley
                  paintball player
                  • Mar 2001
                  • 9169

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RogueFactor
                  I disagree. A Pro Classic with ULE body and Level 10 is $285 from AGD, cheaper from dealers.

                  A-5's are $270 when not on special.

                  The mag is a better choice for a few reasons:
                  -The Pro Classic is just as light, if not lighter than the A-5
                  -ULE body is better than the cast aluminum A-5 body
                  -The Pro Classic comes stock with Level 10, the A-5 has no anti-chop that I am aware of.
                  -The Carbon Fiber single trigger frame is just as nice, if not nicer than the cast aluminum frame of an A-5

                  To say that a mag needs to have more features than an A-5 and be priced the same is not reasonable.

                  Tippmans are inexpensive because of their method of construction and the volume they sell.
                  Last edited by shartley; 12-03-2005, 06:28 PM. Reason: Added text.

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                  • zaqwert6
                    Nobody Special
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 108

                    #10
                    If/when AGD actually goes 'out of business' that's the last you'll see of them period...IMO.

                    A large manufacturer would likely not touch the 'Mag' as the valve system is far to precise not to mention the level 10 and all its neccessary tuning and retuning...in that , A) it would be difficult to mass produce in china or the like with that precision and 2) you would never mass produce a product that requires the user to dissassemble, tune and reassemble when safety and relability of function are concerned.

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                    • stop whining buy a mag
                      I know what I'm doing!
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 414

                      #11
                      Originally posted by zaqwert6
                      If/when AGD actually goes 'out of business' that's the last you'll see of them period...IMO.

                      A large manufacturer would likely not touch the 'Mag' as the valve system is far to precise not to mention the level 10 and all its neccessary tuning and retuning...in that , A) it would be difficult to mass produce in china or the like with that precision and 2) you would never mass produce a product that requires the user to dissassemble, tune and reassemble when safety and relability of function are concerned.
                      I understand they would be hard to mass produce but please explain the retuning part. I know people that replace less than one o-ring a year in their mag and they have had their mags since the early 90's.

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                      • zaqwert6
                        Nobody Special
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 108

                        #12
                        Originally posted by stop whining buy a mag
                        I understand they would be hard to mass produce but please explain the retuning part. I know people that replace less than one o-ring a year in their mag and they have had their mags since the early 90's.
                        Not if they had a Level 10.

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                        • WARPED1
                          I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 7458

                          #13
                          The mag will die in mainstream, but there will always be AO cult(not a bad thing). And AGD will never die, just be reborn. TK has something in store!
                          [Something Cool is Here]

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                          • coyote

                            #14
                            my level 10 was a set it and forget it option as well.

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                            • Recon by Fire
                              Enimo Et Fide
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1706

                              #15
                              The Mag hasn't been mainsitream in what, 10 years? I don't really see anything changing.

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