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[Lohman446]

I found this humorous>




I think he meant to say "It was a real pleasure to "buy" top professional teams....

So, those teams had no choice in it? They were simply there with a price tag on them and did not have the option of saying no, or going to someone offering less.

Fact of the matter is, SP put an offer on the table, it was the team that accepted it and chose SP.

[WARPED1]

So, those teams had no choice in it? They were simply there with a price tag on them and did not have the option of saying no, or going to someone offering less.

Fact of the matter is, SP put an offer on the table, it was the team that accepted it and chose SP.

Amen to that! Well said.

[Baby Huey]

I used to just relube with Dow 33 after every day of play I was done. And wiping any paint that might be on it of course.

yep

[magman007]

I thing what we are seeing here is not so much the continuing expansion of SP but the retraction of other big sponsors. Its no secret that National is in trouble so the first expense to go will be sponsorships. I think SP is playing on the fact they were a big winner with ION sales last year and are picking up the pieces cheap.

I bet on more sponsorships by SP coming soon.

AGD

tom hit it right on the nose.


Also, sp doesnt use crappy aluminum, its just a different type of aluminum that is much easier to machine, less gumming, less wear and tear on the machines etc. and when you are producing as much as sp does, it matters.

I am in no way a fan of sp, and you all know this. You know i stand by dye as my marker mfg.

[WARPED1]

tom hit it right on the nose.


Also, sp doesnt use crappy aluminum, its just a different type of aluminum that is much easier to machine, less gumming, less wear and tear on the machines etc. and when you are producing as much as sp does, it matters.

I am in no way a fan of sp, and you all know this. You know i stand by dye as my marker mfg.

I like DYE, I used to hate them. They're still overpriced, but have nice stuff.

[luke]

ANY sponsor buys teams.

Did I state anything to the contrary?
No.

Empire bought thier teams,

so what's your point?

My point is the implication of his comment. Do you REALLY think they are choosing the product or the ride? If you do, then Gardner is a wise salesman. :rofl:

[luke]

Well, I'm sure some of the teams went to Smart Parts first. They saw that they were offering more money and thought it would be a good decision.

But, I am just playing devil's advocate...sort of.

So, are you saying they are choosing a product or a "ride"?

[Lohman446]

So, are you saying they are choosing a product or a "ride"?

They are choosing the offer that best suits them. What value they place on what portions of that offer (money, equipment used, length of contract, exclusivity, duties, royalties, etc) none of us know. Regardless SP made them an offer that they felt best suited them. They chose that offer, I doubt it was the only offer on the table.

[luke]

So, those teams had no choice in it? They were simply there with a price tag on them and did not have the option of saying no, or going to someone offering less.

[Lohman446]

People who beleive that there is not a choice in modern America in signing a contract to play a sport for money are idiots .

Do I doubt for a moment that the SP offer involved a large amount of money that was not matched by anyone? Not a chance, I understand that.

Do I beleive that RL still made the choice? Of course I do...

[WenULiVeUdiE]

So, are you saying they are choosing a product or a "ride"?

Much more so a ride than the product. Sure, you may give up shooting what you like, but that is a small price to pay to get $50,000 a year. However, that is not to say that they do not like the products either. I'm sure quite a few of the newly sponsored teams/players like their Shockers.

[paint magnet]

tom hit it right on the nose.


Also, sp doesnt use crappy aluminum, its just a different type of aluminum that is much easier to machine, less gumming, less wear and tear on the machines etc. and when you are producing as much as sp does, it matters.

I am in no way a fan of sp, and you all know this. You know i stand by dye as my marker mfg.

Did you ever see the photo of the bent Shocker grip frame?

[Baby Huey]

Did you ever see the photo of the bent Shocker grip frame?

ya, I have seen the picture of that one. If you come across a second example you let me know.

[peewee]

I think that ND will still maintain some interest in the Freestyle. Most of them including Rocky have made a great impact with aftermarkets upgrades etc & they truly seem to like the Freestyle. Sp has to invest that money from the Ion somewhere. Its kind of sad because you wont be able to see super marker A showcased against super marker B etc.

[luke]

People who beleive that there is not a choice in modern America in signing a contract to play a sport for money are idiots .

Do I doubt for a moment that the SP offer involved a large amount of money that was not matched by anyone? Not a chance, I understand that.

Do I beleive that RL still made the choice? Of course I do...