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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #46
    Originally posted by luke
    I found this humorous>




    I think he meant to say "It was a real pleasure to "buy" top professional teams....
    So, those teams had no choice in it? They were simply there with a price tag on them and did not have the option of saying no, or going to someone offering less.

    Fact of the matter is, SP put an offer on the table, it was the team that accepted it and chose SP.
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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    • WARPED1
      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
      • Nov 2001
      • 7458

      #47
      Originally posted by Lohman446
      So, those teams had no choice in it? They were simply there with a price tag on them and did not have the option of saying no, or going to someone offering less.

      Fact of the matter is, SP put an offer on the table, it was the team that accepted it and chose SP.
      Amen to that! Well said.
      [Something Cool is Here]

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      • Baby Huey
        Only Christ Can Save
        • Mar 2005
        • 255

        #48
        Originally posted by WARPED1
        I used to just relube with Dow 33 after every day of play I was done. And wiping any paint that might be on it of course.

        yep

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        • magman007
          I <3 my Penis
          • Jun 2001
          • 7579

          #49
          Originally posted by AGD
          I thing what we are seeing here is not so much the continuing expansion of SP but the retraction of other big sponsors. Its no secret that National is in trouble so the first expense to go will be sponsorships. I think SP is playing on the fact they were a big winner with ION sales last year and are picking up the pieces cheap.

          I bet on more sponsorships by SP coming soon.

          AGD

          tom hit it right on the nose.


          Also, sp doesnt use crappy aluminum, its just a different type of aluminum that is much easier to machine, less gumming, less wear and tear on the machines etc. and when you are producing as much as sp does, it matters.

          I am in no way a fan of sp, and you all know this. You know i stand by dye as my marker mfg.



          Originally posted by Tom in reffrence to a post saying he acted like my dad...
          "That's right!
          WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!"
          ALL QUIT AND NO GO!!! Team Icky Forest-Shatnerball 2003!!!
          www.tunamart.com
          DONT SUPPORT HYPOCRITICAL MISSLEAD YOUTH, BOYCOTT HK

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          • WARPED1
            I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
            • Nov 2001
            • 7458

            #50
            Originally posted by magman007
            tom hit it right on the nose.


            Also, sp doesnt use crappy aluminum, its just a different type of aluminum that is much easier to machine, less gumming, less wear and tear on the machines etc. and when you are producing as much as sp does, it matters.

            I am in no way a fan of sp, and you all know this. You know i stand by dye as my marker mfg.
            I like DYE, I used to hate them. They're still overpriced, but have nice stuff.
            [Something Cool is Here]

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            • luke
              lukescustoms.com

              • Jan 2001
              • 8216

              #51
              ANY sponsor buys teams.
              Did I state anything to the contrary?
              No.

              Empire bought thier teams,
              so what's your point?
              My point is the implication of his comment. Do you REALLY think they are choosing the product or the ride? If you do, then Gardner is a wise salesman. :rofl:

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              • luke
                lukescustoms.com

                • Jan 2001
                • 8216

                #52
                Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE
                Well, I'm sure some of the teams went to Smart Parts first. They saw that they were offering more money and thought it would be a good decision.

                But, I am just playing devil's advocate...sort of.

                So, are you saying they are choosing a product or a "ride"?

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                • Lohman446
                  Useful posts: 7
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9315

                  #53
                  Originally posted by luke
                  So, are you saying they are choosing a product or a "ride"?
                  They are choosing the offer that best suits them. What value they place on what portions of that offer (money, equipment used, length of contract, exclusivity, duties, royalties, etc) none of us know. Regardless SP made them an offer that they felt best suited them. They chose that offer, I doubt it was the only offer on the table.
                  "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                  • luke
                    lukescustoms.com

                    • Jan 2001
                    • 8216

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Lohman446
                    So, those teams had no choice in it? They were simply there with a price tag on them and did not have the option of saying no, or going to someone offering less.

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                    • Lohman446
                      Useful posts: 7
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9315

                      #55
                      People who beleive that there is not a choice in modern America in signing a contract to play a sport for money are idiots .

                      Do I doubt for a moment that the SP offer involved a large amount of money that was not matched by anyone? Not a chance, I understand that.

                      Do I beleive that RL still made the choice? Of course I do...
                      "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                      • WenULiVeUdiE
                        Force of Nature Staff
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 1982

                        #56
                        Originally posted by luke
                        So, are you saying they are choosing a product or a "ride"?
                        Much more so a ride than the product. Sure, you may give up shooting what you like, but that is a small price to pay to get $50,000 a year. However, that is not to say that they do not like the products either. I'm sure quite a few of the newly sponsored teams/players like their Shockers.
                        Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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                        • paint magnet
                          Member # 10,261
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 2488

                          #57
                          Originally posted by magman007
                          tom hit it right on the nose.


                          Also, sp doesnt use crappy aluminum, its just a different type of aluminum that is much easier to machine, less gumming, less wear and tear on the machines etc. and when you are producing as much as sp does, it matters.

                          I am in no way a fan of sp, and you all know this. You know i stand by dye as my marker mfg.
                          Did you ever see the photo of the bent Shocker grip frame?
                          My feedback

                          Made in USA - it matters.

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                          • Baby Huey
                            Only Christ Can Save
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 255

                            #58
                            Originally posted by paint magnet
                            Did you ever see the photo of the bent Shocker grip frame?
                            ya, I have seen the picture of that one. If you come across a second example you let me know.
                            Last edited by Baby Huey; 01-04-2006, 09:18 PM.

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                            • peewee
                              AGD,ICD,CCM & CCI (Gunho!)
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 1400

                              #59
                              I think that ND will still maintain some interest in the Freestyle. Most of them including Rocky have made a great impact with aftermarkets upgrades etc & they truly seem to like the Freestyle. Sp has to invest that money from the Ion somewhere. Its kind of sad because you wont be able to see super marker A showcased against super marker B etc.
                              :hail: AGD :hail: CCI :hail:

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                              • luke
                                lukescustoms.com

                                • Jan 2001
                                • 8216

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Lohman446
                                People who beleive that there is not a choice in modern America in signing a contract to play a sport for money are idiots .

                                Do I doubt for a moment that the SP offer involved a large amount of money that was not matched by anyone? Not a chance, I understand that.

                                Do I beleive that RL still made the choice? Of course I do...

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