Interesting Thread on PBN about lobbing guns

[Ace12GA]

I have to say I am becoming rather fond of Doc, His replies were right along what I was thinking. What a pointless argument. Its like the closed vs open bolt argument.

[MntlHazrd]

...and yet i dont see why so many people still have a problem with paintball, it seems so very educational

[Troen]

bump. jack wood finally decided to start defending himself. i hope he sees my picture.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?p=19247173#post19247173

Quote: I stated very clearly several times, that with a certain paint size, certain barrel bore and certain length and style of barrel and bolt, the Ego will shoot with a flatter trajectory in its initial phase. This is only because there is spin imparted on the ball. With a different barrel, paint etc etc it is possible to get the reverse effect. I can tell you that if you fire enough paintballs through one barrel (even better, Reballs) it is very obvious where and why this spin is created. I have my proof, and anybody else with the inclination time and resources is more than capable of replicating the results. You just have to be bothered enough to go out and do it.

[luke@york]

i must admit i found it a boring read.................

and what do a load of 16 year olds know about this stuff
taken from pbnation
"what is the exact level of jacks education?
there are 2 systems and related equations one inside the barrel, and one outside the barrel. its pretty easy. you have linear kinematics and you have the rotational equivelents and add a little fluid dynamics. once the ball leaves the barrel it is in free fall, x and y components of the trajectory are independent. the only thing that will make the trajectory flatter is some sort of spin, or lack thereof. think bernoullis principle. a crosswind will also have an effect.
from 2 different inertial frames of reference things will appear quite different. maybe jack is doing his measurements from a train moving close to the speed of light?"

[UTDragun]

Doc owns. (period)
It seems that I was right all along! sweet!
Mark one for the college engineer major!



^Jackin Woodys

[Rudz]

i did it

i had to bring up the elves..i just had to..lol jack woods got owned by doc, and tk..good job magman, damn AO just invaded the damn ego forum, lol...we setting up shop there now to regulary harass jack woods?

[punkncat]

"How "old" am I?

I hope you mean "old" as in I have been playing paintball for 19 years!

And who said anything about defying physics? You are the one saying something defies physics, when you clearly have no right to be making that claim. Just because you can't be bothered, or don't care to take the time to understand some other fundimentals of phsics besides perfect ballistic scenarios, you shouldn't really contradict someone who has.

Unfortunately ballistics of a paintball in the "real world" are a lot more complex than high-school physics would lead you to believe. It is an increadably complex system that has not been anywhere near to being fully modelled. And unless the military sudenly has a desperate desire to fire liquid-filled gelatin-encapsulated sherical objects, I doubt it ever will.

Jack Wood

(Age 33 Years)
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I find it funny that Jack Woods got it right after all these years. He must have stolen TK's notes.....

I suppose this was a little out of context. Reading through the linked post this reference makes sense.

[phelix]

I'll just quote to my PBN post that accurately describes my opinion on the matter.

Since I don't have a company or a PBN reputation to protect, I will say it. Jack Wood, you are either a liar or an idiot. Perhaps both. You don't have top-secret elves that make your paintballs fly farther, nor do you have a technology that can precisely spin a ball of jello. How come you never mentioned this before this thread came up?

Is gaining a few sales from numbskull agg ***s really worth losing the respect of every single educated person in the paintball community?

[minimag03]

I'll just quote to my PBN post that accurately describes my opinion on the matter.

:)

[phelix]

Honestly, this is something that just makes me furious. It makes my blood boil that I and a handful of others know the truth about this, but we really can't do anything about it. The lie will live because the average PBN kid will trust that crook Wood over Doc and Kaye.

[phelix]

I got banned from PBN for getting too heated up about the matter

[Troen]

[Steelrat]

You have to love the subtle digs Jack Wood is getting in on TK, such as the "Automag guys following their master" and "testing that was valid in the 90's" bits. Rather than back down, now he is implying that the way his marker shoots (i.e. recoil) is somehow affecting the trajectory of the ball.

He completely lost any last vestiges of credibility when he suggested that using a bench rest when testing is of no value.

[SCpoloRicker]

I work for the Magnus Effect, so I'm getting a kick out of a lot of these replies...

[Tao]

One post on the other forum I noticed was that a guy empty a halo out of two guns which both had the same barrel, same paint and same psi in the tank.

The amount of gas released by the valve in the gun is important not the tank. This only effects FPS anyway.

I always beleived that grade 12 physics should be manditory in high school it would solve so many problems like all this nonsence...

Tom should have never retired from paintball his info in his Tech Tips are great. Thanks to him that guy can't sell his rifled mag barrel ever on ebay (go look under mag markers) :P
..it has been there for a month...