Bps

[FARMER00]

what bps is there on a tac 1 or rt ule

[personman]

as fast as you can pull the trigger.

[Lohman446]

Theoretical mechanical limitations in the 30s somewhere. Its a mechanical marker, I doubt many people pull much over 8 without reactivity. Increase the input pressure, little more bounce, it can go higher. Sound low? Most people fail to pull over 13 if truly measured on a short triggered true semi electro.

[luke@york]

what about an RT ULE with X valve sweetspotting, i just got one, not even aired it up yet, but what could i expect to see from this BPS wise ?

luke

[NewbieMagMan10988]

If you get the trigger going, an X valved mag is very fast. I say 15BPS plus. When sweetspoted well, they will keep up with most electros.

Mike

[Dayspring]

Which isn't legal most places, fyi...

[Tao]

A ULT can do in the mid teans without bounce? no?

[whistl3r]

with a stock crossfire reg's output pressure and 7-8 shims in my ult i can do 15.5 bps (very reactive). as far as a ult in the teens with no bounce.. i have never seen that. i've never seen anyone who can walk a ult..

edit: and remember that this will make your gun illegal at most fields.. which is why i use electro when there is a no reactivity rule.. and my mag when i play recball or if the field owner doesn't care.

[personman]

I can walk short bursts on my ult but it isnt reliable.
And fanning is what it's all about, I can get around 14 fanning a ULT.. perfectly legal though not the most accurate way of shooting.

[whistl3r]

I can walk short bursts on my ult but it isnt reliable.
And fanning is what it's all about, I can get around 14 fanning a ULT.. perfectly legal though not the most accurate way of .

oh yeah! i never thought about fanning a ult... i have a blade trigger though maybe i'll put a hump on it somehow and try it out.

[mag88888]

word! fanning is the best way to gain bps on a mag. Although, it usually doesnt mean your holding your gun properly or very well for game purposes. Namely, snap shooting. But for just bps, its the best. I hit 12 on my local fields chrono, with no bounce. Maybe it was wrong but I'm not sure. It was a line. I dont want to sound like a mag noob and say i can hit high bps with mags but its all about the person shooting it. Most likely the chrono wasnt reading correctly but ya know its nice to think i was getting 12 bps. And for reference, i was shooting, an rt ule w/ level x, ult, apoc2k at probably 850 psi, and a evlution loader.

[snoopay700]

Theoretical mechanical limitations in the 30s somewhere. Its a mechanical marker, I doubt many people pull much over 8 without reactivity. Increase the input pressure, little more bounce, it can go higher. Sound low? Most people fail to pull over 13 if truly measured on a short triggered true semi electro.

I tested myself with a calculator (graphing) using the parentheses, and i walked it for 5 seconds and didn't get much over 65 parentheses, which is around 13 bps, and that's the pull of a top of the line electric, maybe even better. Most people don't realize how hard it is to top that.

[Dharma punk]

Is the reliability of the classic valve any lower than the X valve at a high bps? Basically, I want to know if I can shoot as fast with either valve.

[egb groupie]

Is the reliability of the classic valve any lower than the X valve at a high bps? Basically, I want to know if I can shoot as fast with either valve.

Classic Valve=max 14bps without shootdown
X valve=26+bps without shootdown

Classic Valve=3lb trigger pull (guessing here)
X valve w/ULT=15oz trigger pull (guessing again)

IMO the Classic valve is more consistent at slower rates of fire, and the X valve is better at higher rates of fire after the valve "warms up".....

[nevtangle]

I can hit 11bps maybe 12 if lucky. No bounce at all just an ULT. 1 pull = 1 shot, true semi.

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