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  • CaptainNeeda
    Questing for black sky
    • May 2005
    • 230

    #1

    The Anti-Wipe paintball

    With all of this talk about "pro players" wiping with the skill of an artist, I have to wonder why a semi-indelible paintball (for tournaments) isn't made.

    Disclaimer: Have I ever wiped? No.
    Have I been hit and not realized it? Of Course.
    Is it kind of sad that this is even a problem? Yes.

    Anyway, it seems like it would be rather easy to make a paintball for tournament play that would be difficult or hard to wipe.


    Idea #1: A paintball that is indelible until it comes in contact with a specific solvent, i.e. alcohol or hydrogen peroxide. That way once a player is eliminated, they need to get off the field to remove the paintball splatter.

    Idea #2: Player jerseys and/or paitballs that are laced with an acid/base indicator. Yes I know that body chemisty may not work with this but, the idea is still sound. Also the concept is not limited to just acids or bases, nessissarily.

    Idea #3: Paintballs that have a infrared dye that can be washed away later. That way a ref can see a paintball strike with just a special google filter.


    I know that these ideas could still be circumvented by wiping on an old paintball hit, but even making the paintball "effects" degrade in sunlight may help that. And yes, I do know that this would probibly make paintball a hell of a lot less non-toxic but remember, these ideas are for tournaments, not casual play.

    Anyone else have ideas?
  • jhardy66
    Notorious T.W.I.G.
    • Jan 2006
    • 73

    #2
    Originally posted by CaptainNeeda
    With all of this talk about "pro players" wiping with the skill of an artist, I have to wonder why a semi-indelible paintball (for tournaments) isn't made.

    Disclaimer: Have I ever wiped? No.
    Have I been hit and not realized it? Of Course.
    Is it kind of sad that this is even a problem? Yes.

    Anyway, it seems like it would be rather easy to make a paintball for tournament play that would be difficult or hard to wipe.


    Idea #1: A paintball that is indelible until it comes in contact with a specific solvent, i.e. alcohol or hydrogen peroxide. That way once a player is eliminated, they need to get off the field to remove the paintball splatter.

    Idea #2: Player jerseys and/or paitballs that are laced with an acid/base indicator. Yes I know that body chemisty may not work with this but, the idea is still sound. Also the concept is not limited to just acids or bases, nessissarily.

    Idea #3: Paintballs that have a infrared dye that can be washed away later. That way a ref can see a paintball strike with just a special google filter.


    I know that these ideas could still be circumvented by wiping on an old paintball hit, but even making the paintball "effects" degrade in sunlight may help that. And yes, I do know that this would probibly make paintball a hell of a lot less non-toxic but remember, these ideas are for tournaments, not casual play.

    Anyone else have ideas?

    If I know a player on the other team is a "wiper", I am going to use nothing less than Anarchy so that the fill is not as easy to wipe, plus, I am going to lite them up. Those are the very few times I will find it at least somewhat okay to overshoot somebody. If I know that they have a rep for wiping and/or have seen them doing it a few times, I am going to overshoot the heck out of them so that they can't wipe. The more you hit 'em, the harder it is to wipe it. I have no sympathy for cheaters and would rather be kicked out of a tourney myself than to let them advance.

    Of course, all of this is coming from a scenario player perspective that only plays in maybe one tourney a year. Ahhh...the joy of scenario play, where wiping is not near as big of a problem. A problem, yes, but not as much.

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    • gmp211
      Gun Whore Extrodenair
      • Aug 2005
      • 270

      #3
      Pfft, people not cheating? Even if it was illegal, people would still do it.

      As far as getting a game together. Find some pump people.


      P.S Not saying EVERYONE cheats, nor do I hold grudges. So....Yeah

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      • Kevmaster
        Owners Group Div: Director
        • Oct 2001
        • 5475

        #4
        they made this ball. it stained clothing or your skin...whichever it hit.

        it didn't come out.

        it was banned shortly thereafter at all tournaments

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        • skousenjr
          Registered User
          • Oct 2004
          • 65

          #5
          there is a paint a local field of mine picked up for a wile called spank. It wasnt the greatest but it shure worked, it was a purple shell with a white fill. The white fill was alot like house paint or so it seemed, it was realy realy thick, and like tended to dry almsot instantly. And then a few hours later could be brushed off almost. Was cool in the fact that if you got hit could see it and it was thick so a lot was there. and if tried wipes, it jsut make a bigger mark.

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          • jhardy66
            Notorious T.W.I.G.
            • Jan 2006
            • 73

            #6
            Originally posted by skousenjr
            there is a paint a local field of mine picked up for a wile called spank. It wasnt the greatest but it shure worked, it was a purple shell with a white fill. The white fill was alot like house paint or so it seemed, it was realy realy thick, and like tended to dry almsot instantly. And then a few hours later could be brushed off almost. Was cool in the fact that if you got hit could see it and it was thick so a lot was there. and if tried wipes, it jsut make a bigger mark.

            I use Chronic a lot. It is a bit more expensive, but has a THICK bright green fill to it. It shoots great. The only prob I've had with it is that the last box I bought had four or five balls that were larger than the rest. And let me tell you, getting that thick-a$$ paint out of my gun was not fun.

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            • jarley77
              Big J
              • Feb 2003
              • 798

              #7
              i agree with the thicker style of paint. If you make the paint relatively thick I think wiping would be less of a problem
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              • BlueFish
                Ironic One
                • Jan 2006
                • 28

                #8
                Originally posted by CaptainNeeda
                Idea #1: A paintball that is indelible until it comes in contact with a specific solvent, i.e. alcohol or hydrogen peroxide. That way once a player is eliminated, they need to get off the field to remove the paintball splatter.

                its called oil based paint. iirc it was the standard back in the early days. terpentine was the solvent of choice.

                anybody knwo what causes h202 to fizz when it contacts blood?

                maybe paintballs ought to be filled with blood? (that was a joke) but probably not too far off of what we would need. what ever the protein in blood is that fizzes hydrogen peroxide, use it as a ingredient to paintball fill. if its blended with the pigment, the paint should stain, but only if it's not washed out with h2o2.

                a thought.

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                • neppo1345
                  I Will Eat Your Children..
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1913

                  #9
                  My anti-wiper paintballs...

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                  • Troen
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 413

                    #10
                    a paint filled inside of a shell which is surrouned by paint by another shell, so its ball inside of a ball. the outside layer of ppaint interacts with the inside and starts foaming when both shells break, or some kinda indicater. i imagine there would be issues with acuracy though.

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                    • ThePixelGuru
                      Guru of Pixels
                      • May 2005
                      • 1461

                      #11
                      Originally posted by neppo1345
                      My anti-wiper paintballs...
                      (Bullet Image)
                      Those _always_ jam in my damn Revvy.

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                      • BlueFish
                        Ironic One
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 28

                        #12
                        hehe
                        as for the two part fill, i had thought about something like that a couple years ago, having a two part shell with the two different components seperated by part of the shell. which would also make backspin a bit more consistent (it'd get the fluid inside the spinning shell to spin too) but it would not be cost effective.

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                        • cioeboy
                          pb for life!
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 75

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jhardy66
                          If I know a player on the other team is a "wiper", I am going to use nothing less than Anarchy so that the fill is not as easy to wipe, plus, I am going to lite them up. Those are the very few times I will find it at least somewhat okay to overshoot somebody. If I know that they have a rep for wiping and/or have seen them doing it a few times, I am going to overshoot the heck out of them so that they can't wipe. The more you hit 'em, the harder it is to wipe it. I have no sympathy for cheaters and would rather be kicked out of a tourney myself than to let them advance.

                          Of course, all of this is coming from a scenario player perspective that only plays in maybe one tourney a year. Ahhh...the joy of scenario play, where wiping is not near as big of a problem. A problem, yes, but not as much.
                          i play rec ball and i completely agree with this

                          one time i was playing and i hit a guy twice (gun and chest). i look at him right after i hit him and he wipes both marks off. i moved over one bunker to get a better view of him then let a good long string of shots fly.
                          hit him five more times before the ref pulled him.

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                          • snoopay700
                            Serious About Men

                            • Jan 2006
                            • 3071

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jarley77
                            i agree with the thicker style of paint. If you make the paint relatively thick I think wiping would be less of a problem
                            Both you and neppo took my post, i was going to say make the fill stick, but be like jelly almost, so it would stick and there'd be a residue or something. I was also going ot say as a joke lets try to see them wipe a bullet, but i wasn't going to post it after thinking about it.
                            Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                            • Recon by Fire
                              Enimo Et Fide
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1706

                              #15
                              Two ideas for anti-wiping:

                              Switch to pepperballs!

                              Or tournament gear and balls follow the hook-n-loop method and we rename it "velcroball".




                              Or everyone could play like they are reasonable honest players and not cheating slug lowlife losers.

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