The Anti-Wipe paintball

[skriptal]

No matter what you do, people will always or try to cheat. Also people will always also claim that the other team is cheating no matter Fair or unfair play.


I play front so i do get covered with a lot of spray, and each time i think there is a questionable spot, i call a paint check, If there is no ref around i ask a teammate, they usually tell me I'm ok, I'm just am trying to have fun.

Have i ever cheated, once sorta, but i felt so bad after wiping that i called myself out, the time between i wiped and called my self out was minimal, i don't think the other person even took any more shots at me in that time span.

[peewee]

Back in the day I believe nelson had an anti wipe ball. Fill was like glue. Good heavy ball for brush fields, for when you had to chop your lanes.

[Vex]

Anyone remember good ol' Zap classic? Now that, was hard to wipe paint! I still have a shirt that was stained by that stuff...

[Pacifist_Farmer]

I thought ramping was the answer to wiping, there was no question people were going to wipe, so they gave us the power to put so many hits on people in the same amount of time that they could not possibley wipe them all without being seen.

[Skoad]

no, ramping was their answer to bouncy triggers and cheat modes....didn't fix it but it helped.

[peewee]

Zap classic was great paint!! Used it for several years.

[OneEyedPimp]

they made this ball. it stained clothing or your skin...whichever it hit.

it didn't come out.

it was banned shortly thereafter at all tournaments

I think I have been hit by one of those. I was playing in shorts and a t shirt, and was hit repeatedly in each area. My legs were stained pink for 3 weeks. What made it worse is that I dont own a single pair of pants.

[RazorMonkey]

its called oil based paint. iirc it was the standard back in the early days. terpentine was the solvent of choice.

anybody knwo what causes h202 to fizz when it contacts blood?

maybe paintballs ought to be filled with blood? (that was a joke) but probably not too far off of what we would need. what ever the protein in blood is that fizzes hydrogen peroxide, use it as a ingredient to paintball fill. if its blended with the pigment, the paint should stain, but only if it's not washed out with h2o2.

a thought.

H2O2 bleaches... Use a thick paint, and lay multiple shots on them...

[Pyroboy597]

With all of this talk about "pro players" wiping with the skill of an artist, I have to wonder why a semi-indelible paintball (for tournaments) isn't made.

Disclaimer: Have I ever wiped? No.
Have I been hit and not realized it? Of Course.
Is it kind of sad that this is even a problem? Yes.

Anyway, it seems like it would be rather easy to make a paintball for tournament play that would be difficult or hard to wipe.


Idea #1: A paintball that is indelible until it comes in contact with a specific solvent, i.e. alcohol or hydrogen peroxide. That way once a player is eliminated, they need to get off the field to remove the paintball splatter.

Idea #2: Player jerseys and/or paitballs that are laced with an acid/base indicator. Yes I know that body chemisty may not work with this but, the idea is still sound. Also the concept is not limited to just acids or bases, nessissarily.

Idea #3: Paintballs that have a infrared dye that can be washed away later. That way a ref can see a paintball strike with just a special google filter.


I know that these ideas could still be circumvented by wiping on an old paintball hit, but even making the paintball "effects" degrade in sunlight may help that. And yes, I do know that this would probibly make paintball a hell of a lot less non-toxic but remember, these ideas are for tournaments, not casual play.

Anyone else have ideas?

A good question would be... Do you want to have to pay $300 for a case of paint, and money everytime you wash your jersey to have the 'chemicals' relaced into the fibers? Wiping should not be part of the professional side of the sport, but it is. The teams do, they all do it, so in a way its fair. Of course it is looked down upon, but if both teams are doing it than noone should complain. As for rec games, wiping doesn't happen that often, and if it does its fine with me. I will hit them again if they feel the need to have me do that.

[Jotsy]

IMO, it would be easier to hire 1 ref to every player. so everybody gets their own personal ref monitoring them at all times.

an alternative to this that i've been thinking of would be to have refs as part of the teams. so team 1's ref would monitor team 2 and vice versa. that way players won't be blaming organisers or officials so much. of course, there would have to be extra rules to stop the refs from cheating. for example, if a player is called off but doesn't have paint on him, then points are deducted or something like that. I know its not fool proof and it needs a lot of thought/changes to make it work, but its just an idea...

[phantomhitman]

i have pink and ornage stains all over my jersey because of thick filled toothpaste paint, so that solution is out of the window. I do not want to buy a jersey everytime I go play. However, I love the idea of refs running around looking like sam fischer (splinter cell) checking for hits.

[Crazy]

What about playing on? There are many times in tournaments that players are wiped off, how exactly would you do that with these methods?

[sanity]

anybody knwo what causes h202 to fizz when it contacts blood?

its the natural degredation of HOOH to H20 and O2. Occurs spontaneously at a very slow rate but an enzyme in your blood cells (forget the exact name) catalyze the reaction and make it thousands of times faster. The rapid release of O2 gas is seen as bubbles.

[BlueFish]

the enzyme name was what i was looking for. but yeah...

[CrimsonGhost]

I seem to recall there being a HUGE STINK made a few years ago about Tour. paint being used on rec fields.
I used to use Devi (Proballs Tour only Paint) and Hellfire (Whatever the one was with the zink based fill...that stained your gear and You ) and one or 2 other types of paints that used Iodine bases.Voodoo was another one but I am not sure on the paint mix it used...just turned you YELLOW
All these stained gear unless thy were washed off RIGHT after getting hit.
Wworked great for me because I was the only person shooting it ...making it pretty obvious when I hit you.
If an entire Tour was using it...whats the point?

Here was the issue on Rec fields.
Little Johnny Agg and his $200 in pants,shoes and jersey would be stained like 40 year old undies on an incontinant man.
I quit using tour paint on rec fields for this reason.
Its one thing to mark someone ...its another to WILLINGLY destroy or Stain their gear.

Now days, I know I would be PISSED if some yob was using this crap on a rec field and ruined gear that I was paying for.
The tour guys still use this stuff....but they get NEW gear almost every tour. (Pro guys anyway.) Why do you think you see all those lovely Pro jerseys selling ?
They were free for the owner of them.
So it doesn't matter if they are stained.