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  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #1

    Try to be unbiased and help me out

    This is another one of those one of a million posts, but I am going to try anyway.

    Good buddy of mine has been playing for a LONG time. He started off with some pump gun, went to Stingrays, Spyders, Tippys, a mag, a cocker, and an original Trix. He has had exceptional luck with his Trix and it has served him long and hard for many years totally trouble free with a severe lack of routine maint. In all this time the only markers he has had as long or longer, and still has in working condition are his Tippys.

    At the end of last winter the original LED board in the Trix blew up. Since then we have been all through the marker having to replace worn out parts. In essense its a new trix inside an old body, but refuses to be reliable. If its not one thing its another. He owned an Xvalved RTP for a short time, had a good deal of trouble tuning the LX and didn't like it. He had problems short stroking the trigger on his cocker and didn't like it. He is convinced that any other Electric marker he gets is going to cause him trouble because of what has happened with the Trix.

    He has been looking at getting an A5 RT with a "stealth" kit. This thing is going to run him $425 !!! I have been trying to convince him that there are WAY better markers available to him used for a good deal less money. A freaking 98C RT with a Halo is a more reliable marker for about half the money...if it was new.
    He generally plays woodsball and scenarios. It would take an act of congress to get him back into a serious speedball game. He has access to HPA as well as CO2. Given the reliability that Tippmanns are known for and his previous experiances what marker would you suggest as a used model for under $425 that will stand the test?
    Please don't suggest something just because "Tippys suck". What makes other suggested markers better ?

    Not only am I trying to convince him, I am trying to convince myself. Maybe a Tippy is the best choice, but I just can't see going from a Trix to a A5 and being happy with that choice down the road.
    Last edited by punkncat; 01-30-2006, 06:05 PM.
  • nippinout
    FUSP
    • Jan 2002
    • 1231

    #2
    Why try to change what he likes?

    Would you like someone telling you to buy a different gun? It seems like the A5 offers him what he wants. It is also very popular for scenario games because of the accessories available for it. If he wants, he can even get an electro frame for it should the need arise.

    Tippmanns work.
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    • punkncat
      One foot less
      • Feb 2003
      • 5841

      #3
      Originally posted by nippinout
      Why try to change what he likes?

      Would you like someone telling you to buy a different gun? It seems like the A5 offers him what he wants. It is also very popular for scenario games because of the accessories available for it. If he wants, he can even get an electro frame for it should the need arise.

      Tippmanns work.

      I dunno man...I just keep thinking about all the A5 RT flatlines out there with paint dripping out the barrel, not being able to hit target on a good day. Other than being able to shoot a ball a few yards further than anyone else(before the first barrel break) its got nothing going for it. Its big and heavy. The Cyclone feed is nothing but trouble, coupled with an RT a flatline ...its just a blender waiting to happen.

      I fully believe the 98 to be about the toughest most reliable marker on the planet. The A5 has not come close, and I hate to see a good buddy make a bad choice that will probably cost his intrest in playing.

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      • punkncat
        One foot less
        • Feb 2003
        • 5841

        #4
        I guess what I am trying to say is that the A5 has all the gimmicks and bells and whistles he thinks he wants. He is basing the reliability on a marker that the A5 isn't.

        He used to talk about how he didn't like the weight and size of the Trix, but he did like the effortless speed and quiet operation. So he is going to replace it with something bigger and heavier, louder....and slower.

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        • bleachit
          Conturbo et Ledo
          • May 2003
          • 1410

          #5
          dont put a flatline barrel on it :P

          tell him to pick up a used 98 custom and buy one of those cyclone feed add ons for it. should be much cheaper, and the 98 will last a lifetime.. even if it was abused.
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          • peewee
            AGD,ICD,CCM & CCI (Gunho!)
            • Mar 2004
            • 1400

            #6
            If he's tippy bound I'd say 98 Custom pro E , gives him the fire power he is use to having with a little better reliability over the A5. Nothing worse than soup in your A5 can. Plus he can do all kinds of tinkering with out doing much damage.
            :hail: AGD :hail: CCI :hail:

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            • Cow hunter
              300fps=204.54mph
              • Aug 2005
              • 1521

              #7
              DO NOT use the flatline for 3 reasons....
              1;curve like mad
              2;breaks happen and cleaning that is hell
              3;the whole marker must be taken apart to get it off.....

              but other than that tippy's are good, just dont pull too fast or you chop......
              this is unbiased, ive used tippy's since i started playing, they're great, but theres better out there

              obviously people will tell you to get mags, i suggest it too, nothing better IMHO
              for electro's.... problems are inevitable...... same as any other, but more prevelant an issue in anything with a battery..... not only that, but you cant throw them around and clean them in the sink

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              • geekwarrior
                MIA
                • Oct 2005
                • 2581

                #8

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                • electriceel125
                  Golden Gun 009
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 875

                  #9
                  He could pick up a used viking. all the speed in the world and very reliable. but if he is stuck on a tippy. Then well he is just stuck on what he likes.

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                  • personman

                    #10
                    Well maybe a tippmann is for him, but make sure he trys it before he buys it! Tippmanns, because of their inline blowback design, tend to be pretty long, and the gun will balence differently and have a different feel than his old trix, not to mention the RT will take some getting used to.

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                    • SniperSmurf
                      Now I have a machine gun..
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 502

                      #11
                      Originally posted by punkncat
                      The Cyclone feed is nothing but trouble, coupled with an RT a flatline ...its just a blender waiting to happen.
                      Now, I'm not a fan of the flatline myself, but what issues are there exactly with the Cyclone feed and RT? I've got 2 A5s and haven't had a lick of trouble with either one! I love the cyclone - loads balls as fast as I can shoot, and with the RT running good, that's pretty dang fast... 1 trigger pull = 1 ball loaded.

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                      • cdacda13
                        WDP: Fly or Die
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 841

                        #12
                        E-bolt'd 98c. Get it centerfeed too.
                        Very reliable, very customazible.
                        And, pretty cheap used.
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                        • RRfireblade

                          • Jun 2002
                          • 5103

                          #13
                          Honestly it sounds to me like your the most biased of opinoins.

                          IMO, an A5 is very little of what you think it is besides perhaps somewhat heavy.

                          Cylone feed works as advertised and as very trouble free.

                          Very little 'blender' like qualities.

                          Very dependable , reliable and maintainance free.

                          Capable of more than adaquate ROF.

                          That's in my experience of building, assembling and selling like this many custom Tippys....



                          Anyone else wanna compete with that stack of empty boxes?

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                          • slade
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 3442

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RRfireblade
                            thats... rather impressive. im jealous.

                            i agree though, my friend has an A5 which is completely reliable, and he never has problems with it. Then again, i hate it because its a woodsball gun, and he doesnt care too much for it anymore since hes moved more towards speedball. actually, hed probably sell it, and it has a lot of what a woodsballer would want, or it sounds your friend would want.

                            also vikings would be a good choice, personally i dont like them too much but their fast, cheap, and very reliable. much better than a tippmann for even woodsball IMO.

                            on a different note... ill take the matrix as it is for $50
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                            • punkncat
                              One foot less
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 5841

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RRfireblade
                              Honestly it sounds to me like your the most biased of opinoins.

                              IMO, an A5 is very little of what you think it is besides perhaps somewhat heavy.

                              Cylone feed works as advertised and as very trouble free.

                              Very little 'blender' like qualities.

                              Very dependable , reliable and maintainance free.

                              Capable of more than adaquate ROF.

                              That's in my experience of building, assembling and selling like this many custom Tippys....


                              Anyone else wanna compete with that stack of empty boxes?

                              You are right. I love the 98's but have seen quite a few of the A5's giving problems in the field. The Cyclone drive mechanism seems prone to breaking.
                              Also very common to see barrel breaks which are nearly impossible to clean on field.

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