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  • FinchMan
    LVL10 classic minimag
    • Nov 2004
    • 459

    #1

    Paintball silencers.

    I know they are illegal, and if I'm not allowed to talk about them here, please delete this thread and let me know.

    Since they were so great for paintball, and banned by the ATF, why has nobody petitioned the AFT to make a paintball specific license for supressors? maybe something that doesn't cost $200+ for a license for silencers, automatic weapons, and a few other things (explosives??).

    they say that silencers for paintball guns could easly be adapted to real guns, but what if some company manufactured barrels with permanently attached silencers... maybe something could be worked out.

    I'm just throwing ideas out there... please post with suggestions/comments/etc...
  • Dayspring
    aka- The Day Wang

    • May 2001
    • 9664

    #2
    If there was money to be made, somebody would try it.

    Plus, they're illegal.

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    • neppo1345
      I Will Eat Your Children..
      • Oct 2005
      • 1913

      #3
      They're not illegal...

      by definition, the illegal usage of a silencer is based off of what it's silencing...

      Firearms Silencer - Illegel w.o permit

      Paintball Marker Silencer - Completely legal...considering that a paintball marker is not cosidered a firearm...and ONLY firearm silencers are listed in the law...


      There must be money to be made

      Compression Barrels

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      • NeoApollo
        AGD Loyalist
        • Sep 2005
        • 54

        #4
        "Firearm silencers are a controlled device under federal law. The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) regulates the ownership and manufacture of a number of firearm devices including machine guns and sound suppressors (otherwise known as "silencers.") In the early 1990s, the ATF ran tests and decided that paintball silencers could be used to quiet a true firearm and they notified all manufacturers of paintball silencers that they were in violation of federal law. The reach of big brother was fast and final. All paintball silencers disappeared from the market."

        -http://www.specialopspaintball.com/a..._silencers.asp

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        • SlartyBartFast
          The Flying Scotsman
          • Jun 2002
          • 2940

          #5
          With all the holes drilled into paintball barells, they're plenty silent.

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          • Jotsy
            ya dirty dirty shisno
            • Nov 2004
            • 262

            #6
            lol you have got to be kidding me... ported barrels = silent? "quieter" yes mebe, but not silent.

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            • MarkM
              UK Cougars
              • Jul 2002
              • 2433

              #7
              Originally posted by Jotsy
              lol you have got to be kidding me... ported barrels = silent? "quieter" yes mebe, but not silent.
              Don't sweat it the US has different laws so ported barrels are basically their only option, you can use silencers same as I can, finding a walk-on day though would be a little more difficult though. Of course to use one in a Tournament would be pretty pointless unless it was woodland but even so the woods are pretty thinned out right now...in a few months maybe not so and I have heard a little rumour of a proper woodland tournament coming up.
              Mark UK Cougars


              UK Cougars
              Sterling Owners Group. Member #39

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              • Recon by Fire
                Enimo Et Fide
                • Mar 2003
                • 1706

                #8
                You can have a paintball silencer...for a $200 ATFB tax stamp.


                Just get yourself a faux "barrel extender"


                AGD X-Mag #XT00187
                AGD Tac-One
                WGP 2003
                Marker Pics

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                • FinchMan
                  LVL10 classic minimag
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 459

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Recon by Fire
                  You can have a paintball silencer...for a $200 ATFB tax stamp.


                  Just get yourself a faux "barrel extender"

                  that was my orginal point. $200 for a license for a bunch of firearm stuff thats not needed in paintball. we only need a license for silencers, paintball specific ones.

                  It seems you saw the topic, and didn't bother to read it all to well...
                  That fake barrel extender does nothing, adds weight, and looks dumb because it does nothing. I don't want a silencer because it looks cool, I want it for the sound supression for woodsball. I don't want to be comitting a big crime every time i use one, and I don't want to pay 200$ for the license alone. Thats why I want to see if there are any options out there, like ways to get the laws changed in favor of paintball.

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                  • geekwarrior
                    MIA
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2581

                    #10
                    theres been paintball silencers on ebay the last month or so, i asked the dude and he said they were legal....he wanted like 40$ for them....personally i like to be loud and scare everyone

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                    • neppo1345
                      I Will Eat Your Children..
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1913

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NeoApollo
                      "Firearm silencers are a controlled device under federal law. The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) regulates the ownership and manufacture of a number of firearm devices including machine guns and sound suppressors (otherwise known as "silencers.") In the early 1990s, the ATF ran tests and decided that paintball silencers could be used to quiet a true firearm and they notified all manufacturers of paintball silencers that they were in violation of federal law. The reach of big brother was fast and final. All paintball silencers disappeared from the market."

                      -http://www.specialopspaintball.com/a..._silencers.asp
                      So doubleyou-tee-eff is this then? Compression Barrel

                      I better get mine before someone goes and reports them to government...

                      And uh...finch...before you go flaming...maybe consider sarcasm on the part of the other party...
                      enclosing a "word" in "quotations" usually signifies "sarcasm"....

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                      • FinchMan
                        LVL10 classic minimag
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 459

                        #12
                        Originally posted by neppo1345
                        So doubleyou-tee-eff is this then? Compression Barrel

                        I better get mine before someone goes and reports them to government...

                        And uh...finch...before you go flaming...maybe consider sarcasm on the part of the other party...
                        enclosing a "word" in "quotations" usually signifies "sarcasm"....
                        aight, no harm done then.

                        from what i heard on pbreview, from the people not accused of being company reps, is that that barrel doesnt actually make much difference in noise.

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                        • neppo1345
                          I Will Eat Your Children..
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1913

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FinchMan
                          aight, no harm done then.

                          from what i heard on pbreview, from the people not accused of being company reps, is that that barrel doesnt actually make much difference in noise.
                          Gotcha...I might pick one up eventually...I'll have to put up a review...

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                          • craltal
                            MCB, baby...
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1452

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FinchMan
                            that was my orginal point. $200 for a license for a bunch of firearm stuff thats not needed in paintball. we only need a license for silencers, paintball specific ones.

                            It seems you saw the topic, and didn't bother to read it all to well...
                            it seems YOU didn't read the replies as it was stated that the ATF decided that even paintball silencers could be adapted to use with real firearms so they were banned. There is not a way to purposefully differentiate the two with a plethora of machinists around.

                            Moot point, especially since nothing will completely silence the sound without dropping velocity to unusable levels . Just buy a good barrel, learn fire control, and be done with it.

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                            • BigEvil
                              www.BigEvilOnline.com

                              • Feb 2005
                              • 9333

                              #15
                              Taso used to make silencers back in the day. They didnt work really well unless you replaced the stuffing with something denser.

                              Once you got them right they worked great.

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