Observation in PB magazines

**Lohman446** · 02-09-2006, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by REDRT

Looking at PB magazines I see pictures of teams with the latest and greatest super markers on the planet. I find it very satisfying to see these markers with gobs of goo flowing out of almost every barrel. Funny how as a mag owner I get told all the time I need something newer and with eyes. Comments like, "Lvl10 isn't as good as a good set of eyes". Most of the time my barrel is as clean as when I started the day, atleast on the inside. Maybe break beam eyes on a mag would be just the most ultimate thing for that extra few %? After reading countless magazines and seeing all of these pictures showing barrels with rivers of goo I ask, "why would anyone want that"?

I very seldom break paint during the day in any of my markers. My backplayers who shoot five times as much as I do routinely do. Read into it what you like.

**BigEvil** · 02-09-2006, 09:47 AM

I have wondered the same thing. Pick up any issue of Splaat, and there are plenty of action pics or pro tournies where there barrels are dripping like a guy with a bad case VD.

Having shot alot of differnt markers, I am inclined to thing that more than likely its the ultra-craptastic, ultra-thin shelled tourny paint. Your right though, its funny how most mags can handle it with out problems, yet they get the bed rep.

**REDRT** · 02-09-2006, 09:57 AM

Well, here is my thoughts. In the magazines these are pro prayers so in my mind they have the so called best. I know they are using high end paint. Pushing the bunker while firing doesn't back paint all the way down the barrel and just ooze out of the porting. So why is there so much broken paint flowing out of these marker pictured in the magazines? I'm a back player. I normally go through 5 pods up to 9 pods in a individual game. Not ever having the amount of goo like pictured. The only thing eyes are for is anti-chop. Maybe the eye malfuctioned/got paint on them and they had to turn them off. I'd by that. But why have eyes if you can't count on them? If that is all barrel breaks their markers are either very hard on the paint or the paint is extremely brittle and more so than high end paint that I have ever used.

**Lohman446** · 02-09-2006, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by BigEvil

I have wondered the same thing. Pick up any issue of Splaat, and there are plenty of action pics or pro tournies where there barrels are dripping like a guy with a bad case VD.

Having shot alot of differnt markers, I am inclined to thing that more than likely its the ultra-craptastic, ultra-thin shelled tourny paint. Your right though, its funny how most mags can handle it with out problems, yet they get the bed rep.

The level ten mags shooting hellfire were doing the same thing,. Funny how mags can handle it

FYI - the paint was hellfire, questionably stored - there was a liquid line in my halo from this.

**REDRT** · 02-09-2006, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by BigEvil

I have wondered the same thing. Pick up any issue of Splaat, and there are plenty of action pics or pro tournies where there barrels are dripping like a guy with a bad case VD.

So elegantly put, I love it!

**BigEvil** · 02-09-2006, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by Lohman446

The level ten mags shooting hellfire were doing the same thing,. Funny how mags can handle it

FYI - the paint was hellfire, questionably stored - there was a liquid line in my halo from this.

Like they have NEVER ever once chopped a ball? Im not saying that.

BTW, isnt that a Devil mag, lvl7 w/eyes?

Yeah Ive seen those pics before, that must have been REALLY FUN to clean at the end of the day.

**REDRT** · 02-09-2006, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Lohman446

The level ten mags shooting hellfire were doing the same thing,. Funny how mags can handle it

FYI - the paint was hellfire, questionably stored - there was a liquid line in my halo from this.

Hey, There is some bad stuff as far as paint goes. I'm sure we all have got bad paint before. Anytime I ever had something like that happen, every marker from a tippmann on up had problems. I'd suspect in the case of the pro players featured in the magazines the paint is pretty new, well cared for and maybe better quality than what us normal guys get at the local fields/tournaments and still so much goo.

**Lohman446** · 02-09-2006, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by BigEvil

Like they have NEVER ever once chopped a ball? Im not saying that.

BTW, isnt that a Devil mag, lvl7 w/eyes?

Zaks level ten X-mag did the same thing. God that paint sucked... But somewhere someone hinted the likelihood that ultra fragile tournament paint may be part of the cause as to why so many markers drip paint. I'd have to agree with that.

**BigEvil** · 02-09-2006, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Lohman446

Zaks level ten X-mag did the same thing. God that paint sucked... But somewhere someone hinted the likelihood that ultra fragile tournament paint may be part of the cause as to why so many markers drip paint. I'd have to agree with that.

Absolutely 100% agree with that one.

I had my old RT lvl7 for years without a problem. Then all of a sudden one year, it was like someone hit the 'blend' button on it. This was around when paint started coming in boxes of 2000 instead of 2500. Me, not being a regular of the tourny crowd, didnt realize that the paint shells were getting thinner and thinner. So I reluctantly shelled out the cash for the lvl10, and that gun is golden to this day. Although it was a total ***** to set up for the first time, work the bugs out, and get it tuned.

I really miss the old Pro-Ball welt-o-matic paintballs. 2500 rnds to a case. You needed the extra 500 because it took so many hits on someone to finally get one to break on them. Those things were great.

Back then, feeding the guns was the issue. I remember AGD put out the lvl7 foamyless bolt, and being amazed that the paint could take the impact of that thing.

**REDRT** · 02-09-2006, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Lohman446

Zaks level ten X-mag did the same thing. God that paint sucked... But somewhere someone hinted the likelihood that ultra fragile tournament paint may be part of the cause as to why so many markers drip paint. I'd have to agree with that.

I've shot the hellfire with out a hitch before. You previously questioned how they were stored. I'd say, "they were something other than cared for unquestionably".

**REDRT** · 02-09-2006, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by BigEvil

Absolutely 100% agree with that one.

I had my old RT lvl7 for years without a problem. Then all of a sudden one year, it was like someone hit the 'blend' button on it. This was around when paint started coming in boxes of 2000 instead of 2500. Me, not being a regular of the tourny crowd, didnt realize that the paint shells were getting thinner and thinner. So I reluctantly shelled out the cash for the lvl10, and that gun is golden to this day. Although it was a total ***** to set up for the first time, work the bugs out, and get it tuned.

I really miss the old Pro-Ball welt-o-matic paintballs. 2500 rnds to a case. You needed the extra 500 because it took so many hits on someone to finally get one to break on them. Those things were great.

Back then, feeding the guns was the issue. I remember AGD put out the lvl7 foamyless bolt, and being amazed that the paint could take the impact of that thing.

No doubt on the pro-ball. Man I remember parting treelines with thoughs. I miss the days of 2500 per case. My LvL7 was a blender from the get go though, even with Pro-ball. Just had less of them blended. I gave up on sqeegees. I carried 3 barrels on me and just switched them out.

Internet was kind of new/space age and we didn't have it, so maybe it was never truely set-up just right. LvL10 was just a god send for me.

**Pyroboy597** · 02-09-2006, 10:47 AM

I have an ion, and can honestly say that it chops far less than my mag does. As for those pictures, you have to remember that those guys are diving in the mud, getting paint sprayed all over them and shooting at very fast rates. I have seen balls get broken from Halo's in the feedneck, then the little chips of paint and the liquid gets into the gun and blocks up the eyes.

**REDRT** · 02-09-2006, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Pyroboy597

and shooting at very fast rates.

How fast? Faster than Lohman446's Devilmag or my Predator Emag? No, I think I could agree with the reason being said earlier. They must be using very fragile paint. That would account for ball breaks in the hopper, breach, and all the goo rolling out the barrels.

**Rudz** · 02-09-2006, 11:17 AM

lvl 10

id say blame the paint.and alot of time when my barrel is full of paint..its because of me being all over a bunker..and my barrel gets all the goo from the bunker all over it..but yeah i also carry extra barrels for that reason..[FONT=Arial]